Shaggy

Hever is the easiest and fastest to get to via public transport, as long as you don't mind a walk from the station. Best to take a sling unless you don't mind lugging a buggy over a couple of styles though.

I'm going to leave it after this as its not really related to somebody's horrible work stress. You can't take notes in the public gallery. If you do the judge won't go mad but an usher will often stop you and exclude you from court. Some courts police this more thoroughly than others. At the Bailey they are assiduous. At Southwark Crown Court, where the press tend to use the public gallery, the officials assume that anybody with a notebook is a reporter and don't stop anybody. Journalists can take notes (they are working from within the well of the court, on the press bench,) and participants can takes notes. But there is no way people can "record" proceedings from the public gallery, either on a tape recorder on in a notebook. You say people can record "not very accurately." This is certainly not the case. As I said above, court reporters should have good shorthand. They are under an obligation to the court to ensure their story IS both fair and accurate. Being accurate is the reporter's problem, not the court's. So if a court reporter "records" proceedings "not very accurately" they could end up in trouble if their mistake is relevant or unfair. Defence lawyers are particularly good at highlighting what they call inaccurate reporting to get cases thrown out because of prejudicial reporting. And, many people don't know this, but the court artist isn't even allowed to draw in court. She can't even make preliminary sketches. She has to do her pictures from memory. When you sitting in the public gallery, you are there to SEE justice being done, not to RECORD justice being done. Going beyond this is likely to get you kicked out, although using a recording device or a camera will get you time if you are caught. Even the recent rule allowing tweeting from court (at the Judge's discretion, following an application from the media) is restricted to reporters. Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's a peculiar law - what's the justification? > > With a public gallery and the right to take notes, > it seems that you are allowed to 'record' what > takes place, just not very acccurately. > > Most strange.

Contempt of court isn't like being caught on the motorway doing 71. If a judge catches somebody recording proceedings (especially somebody who should know better,) the judge is likely to be more than a little annoyed and that person WILL get the book thrown at them and will get a prison sentence.

Kid - could you delete some of your private messages? Want to send you one but your box is full.

Edited as I intended to send info by pm, but failed.

Slightly off the point -- but Kidkruger, are you saying you secretly record court proceedings, or was that an unfortunate turn of phrase. Recording court proceedings is a clear contempt. A judge WILL jail anybody he catches doing it. That's why court reporters have good shorthand. Anybody who takes a recording device into a courtroom, or tribunal hearing, should also bring a toothbrush. KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think it may be useful to not explicitly commit > to anything / sign anything until you've done your > research and spoken to unions/advisors. > It'll serve you well to be as prepared as > possible, write your questions down with plenty of > space to fit the answers. > Also you could take a small recording device > switched on before you go in and wrapped in > something like a tissue so sound gets through OK, > or use the iPhone voice recording app (this is > purely for referential use but also if something > is later contested and you find you need > evidence). > In court I use an Edihrol device wrapped in a > tissue. Never needed to use the evidence but > useful for reference going forward, it's > surprising what you think was said but actually > wasn't (and vice versa).

Trapped on a bus in the middle of a huge police roadblock

Try Silent Roar -- lion poo.

That was brilliant! How did you do that? binary_star Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Willard Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > > White guilt? What's that? Is it different to > other > > types and colours of guilt? > > White guilt

Actually, nobody has answered Dully's question. Did anybody else see the dolls for sale?

*Yawn* Christ, you are all so fking boring. Get lives. Anyway, you have all convinced me that the state sector is a non-starter. Have fewer kids and send them private. If you can't afford it, get better jobs. Simple. Btw I know many journalists on the Mail. They are all extremely nice people.

Gordon Brown wants to run the IMF.

Apologies if it has already been mentioned, but anybody got any guesses about where the 240k ED three bed bargain mentioned in this article might be? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/propertynews/8425711/Historic-houses-for-sale-at-bargain-prices-by-desperate-town-halls.html

I've an idea. Why not get cyclists to wear bells around their necks, like cats, that jingle-jangle as they pedal? That way pedestrians won't be startled by them, and cyclists won't have to rudely ring their bells at people to get them to move out of the way.

DarrenSpriing Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hey all, > > David Cameron came out and said the other day that > if you want to have a street party to just do it! > :D It's a day off so why not! And if there are any > complaints direct it to Downing Street! > > Also, I am biased when I say this as they are a > client of my company but we have just helped > Funkin launch a Royal Wedding cocktail party pack > http://bit.ly/hKagRa > > Anyways, looking forward to my own party on the > day, it's a day off so why not! > > Best, > Darren I don't think DC said ``just do it.'' I think he said something along the lines of: ``if the council says you have missed the deadline, give them an extra push because the deadline that councils set isn't legally binding, it is just their policy, so can be altered. If you can't have a street party, nobody can stop you having a party in your garden.'' James' post seems to be exactly in the spirit of the PM's diktat: he's waiving the official deadline (which, no doubt was set because of the difficulties inherent in closing a street in a busy London borough,) and encouraging everybody who wants to have a party to remove their fingers ASAP and get organizing. It's not as if he hasn't been encouraging people from the start, though.

Just Williams also has them.

Just WIlliams, on LL.

It probably is chicken and egg, I think it's worth a shot though on maybe one night a week. But the shops would have to co-ordinate and make an event out of it. Though if they did it in the middle of winter I doubt it would work. I think a couple of late night shopping festivals once the clocks change would be a worthwhile experiment.

I vote yes. If there was an M&S or a Waitrose nearby I'd still use the local non-chain stores, but wouldn't use Ocado and Lordship Lane Co-op. It's such a shame the Co-ops are so badly run. They could be great stores. And if some of the food stores could stay open later some nights I'd use them for sure. I'd love to come home on a week night with a loaf from the EDD.

Asquith peckham rye could have some spaces.

To be honest, I doubt they will but think they should. They aren't a charity, they are premium-priced private nursery, and part of a large company. The weather is unfortunate, but I see no reason why they should pass their costs on to their customers when they are unable to provide the service we pay for.

It is a brilliant technique. It works perfectly. I read it a while back (thanks Nappy Lady) and it really worked.

Out n About have a couple of good ones. You can get the catalogue from soup dragon. We have the standard all terrain 3 wheeler and that shold be fine. They do make a special running one though with wheels like a racing bike.

Has anyone found a monkey toy on Northcross Road? I think Baby Shaggy must have thrown it from her pram near the pharmacy late this afternoon (Saturday.)

No idea whatsoever. How much?