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Need to go back to 4 September posts for the context. A young lady has provided me with a reference to a photo of an LCC park-keeper uniform. John K

I'm writing about the same junk-yard in the sky as you. Do you know who funds it? Why not drop by for a chat about LIDL shopping trolley handles? John K

So, who does fund the junk-yard in the sky? Shy? John K

EDF Rule 1832.

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Is Annette one of the little girls in photo #40? John K

Lest we forget.

It will be interesting to see if the new boundary follows the historic Cut Throat Lane boundary again. Luke 15:32 John K

Interesting report about London Fog in East Dulwich in the 1940s. I can only remember the East Dulwich London Fogs of the 1950s. There were pea-soupers like you see in the movies but I can only remember visibility going down to about twelve feet. The clean air act must have been starting to bite by the end of the 1950s. I think they were also becoming quite rare. Perhaps one a year at most? Can you remember which East Dulwich coal merchant your family bought its coal from? John K

This small segment came up in one of the oral history interviews: East Dulwich Rag And Bone Man I had totally forgotten about him until this interview. Can anyone add anything? Were there others, or did he have a local monopoly? Am I right in remembering goldfish in jam jars? John K

Huge Know It All examines EDF in search of next argument. http://www.rachelsbears.co.uk/ekmps/shops/rachelsbears/images/the-great-british-teddy-bear-company-sherlock-holmes-1964-p.jpg

The web-site's home page has an excellent photograph of Peckham Rye station's technical infrastructure; far more interesting than the exhibits. Apart from that, the phrase "junkyard in the sky" comes to mind. John K

I've had a query from a visitor about why chunks of industrial slag can be found in Ruskin Park. I couldn't help. Can you? John K

And the key to the Dyos map extract: 5] Bowyer-Smijth [sic] 6] British Empire Mutual Life Assurance Company 16] Edmond's 17] Friern Manor Farm 30] Worlingham Road

'fraid so. The Ideal Homes web-site has some excellent pictures, but you need to be very careful about the text. I'll just take one example from the extract you've cut and pasted. Within the incorrect description of the East Dulwich area by Ideal Homes Dyos managed to indentify five estates. John K

EDF Rule 1832

Thanks for the clarification, DulwichFox. Addington Square Open Space (formal title) was a Camberwell Borough Council "park". The Council finished laying it out in 1938/39 by which time the total capital cost was ?31,112. I suspect Camberwell Council park keepers had a different uniform to LCC park keepers. The Camberwell Council open spaces in East Dulwich were: Cox's Walk Dulwich Library Garden One Tree Hill so it would have been quite possible to see a Camberwell Council park keeper in East Dulwich during the 1950s. John K

This whole thread is a diversion from a serious matter of great importance to East Dulwich. Katie1997 has hinted at it, and I will now write as much as I dare. [1] Several years ago someone wrote on the East Dulwich Forum about an underground river that runs underneath Barry Road from The Plough to Peckham Rye Common. [2] Only a few days ago someone wrote in that other place about an underground river near Stuart Road. [3] Southwark Council has not explained why it keeps the sluice gates in Peckham Rye Park locked, or the interesting timetable and reasons for their temporary openings. John K

DulwichFox: Don't rely too much on Wikipedia as you may get some wrong information about East Dulwich history. That 967AD charter of King Edgar is nearly always misquoted. The text of the charter is here. As you can see [1] it has nothing to do with East Dulwich. [2] very little to do with Dulwich. If anyone wants to take this further they will need to pay for a scan of the two surviving copies and check the transliteration. John K

DulwichFox: Great picture of the Exeter Council park keepers, but it does not help us establishing whether London County Council park keepers had flat caps or something like a trilby (with a badge at the front). The picture I uploaded dates from before 28 June 1905 and sows a LCC park keeper standing next to the lake in Peckham Rye Park. He is not wearing a flat cap. What we need is a family photo taken in the 1950s or 1960s that has a park keeper in the background. John K

Is that a non-native species? John K

> East Dulwich has been around roughly since the 1870s EDF Rule 1832.

> They were dressed in Brown with flat caps I remember something more like a trilby. Here's a poor photo of the pre First World War uniform. John K

When you LOT have stopped trying to feed ducks to the buns in the park... John K

At the other place someone has looked at the historic evidence and worked out where Peckham Rye is located. John K