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I now clap to annoy the people who don't like clapping !

I live now on the London borders wit ha big garden so it's easier for most folks here to stay at home. Back in ED with lots of flats and smaller gardens the stir-crazy nature of the lockdown is no doubt more acute.

A Sherlock could work out the angle the video was taken from looks like a first-floor window diagonally opposite. 'Covidiots' in ED you will be photoed and shamed in the DM.

Not like the Mail to lie......

The video is definitely ED.

They have craftily changed their headline now!

Never mind eh King's College Hospital is just down the road should their insatiable desire for an overpriced burger get too much.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8252819/Police-try-restore-order-huge-queue-forms-outside-burger-bar-MEATliquor.html I would hardly say huge queues but a friend who lives in ED says it has been very busy on the Lane recently with minimal social distancing.

This seems to be getting some legs. Sign up to volunteer and get help. https://covidmutualaid.org/local-groups/

Mumsnet going mental but no difference there. The trend upwards outside of China is starting to look worrying. https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3826144-to-be-worried-about-coronavirus-part-3?pg=10

jimlad48 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am depressed at the attitude that single male = > problem. > > I?m a childless male and occasionally meet my > friends and their children, or my godchildren at > the park. If I arrive early and have to wait a few > minutes for them on my own, does that make me > suspicious? > > I have friends who are stay at home Dads. If they > go to the park and their kid runs off, while they > wait for them, does that make them suspicious? > > I know people with learning challenges who are > lovely people but may happily stand by the park > minding their own business. Are they suspicious > too? > > What makes me so cross here is that we assume > single male = paedophile. We?d never say the same > about a single woman, and I am 100% certain that a > woman standing on their own in the park wouldn?t > have aroused any suspicions or threads on EDF at > all. > > You may not like the fact that he was there, but > if he wasn?t breaking the law, and you weren?t > prepared to call Police/Council or even > appropriately challenge him, then that should have > been a steer to not raise it here. People have > committed suicide over false paedophile claims, > and yet here you are describing someone who has, > on the surface, done nothing wrong and where no > evidence exists of wrongdoing, and effectively > slandered them. And increased the climate of fear and scaremongering for no useful end.

I have every confidence in Boris and his chums will eff it up . It's what he does every time so why would it be different? The lunatics have definitely taken over the asylum.

A real horror show of naffness.

Why don't you sod off to some backward Brexit voting part of the country? This is EAST DULWICH for FFS, not some gammon loving backwater. We eat artisanal smoke-cured Iberian chorizo when we aren't considering going vegan.

China Crisis looks like they are about to have a great comeback!

With what we see with the coronavirus panic in China (I am hugely confident it will probably be less than swine flu in the end and that killed a million and infected 10% of the world). Social media can fuel unprecedented panic and cause intense firestorms of misinformation. In a couple of weeks the virus storm will no doubt have calmed down and it will be business as usual. Sadly we still have Trump to thank for that and in the case of UK Brexit, which will blight a generation. Thank you Facebook turns out you aren't free after all.

If I was an EU low paid worker I would probably want to leave especially so with the state of the pound and the cost of housing in the SE. What chatting to a university-educated Romanian Uber driver a few weeks back and he has told his family not to speak when out in a supermarket and he feels or think he feels, cold accusing stares from some other British folk.

nxjen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > se22cat Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > i*Rate The International Stores had a counter > > service at the back, too. What a shame they > > closed! > > It was dreadful! Sparse selection comprising > pre-sliced luncheon meat and corned beef and lumps > of drying out cheddar and lots and lots of Gammon.ED was staunchly working-class back then!

Probable outcomes that might affect ED. Nannies, cleaners, and builders all to get more expensive. Worse service in cafes, restaurants and artisanal businesses (some closing eg. Brick House) as Eu staff leave.,. More QE and Zirp to keep economy afloat as assets prices increase, pound falls further. Foreign investors continue to see London as a unique safe haven and cheap (see pound and China, Hong Kong, Australia anyone ?) So a good 3 bedder ED breaking the million barrier when BoJo and chums reform SD by year end. Cumming's Bat-Signal is saying buy if you have the money. And curiously the Mail is starting to punt WTF articles about ol Boris. 2020 has got off to a right old start. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7930053/DAN-HODGES-Ministers-asking-Boris-Johnson-clue-next.html

nd if half the stuff in that politico link turns our to be true things are going to get worse, worse. RIP UK.

Larry Elliot Chief Economics Editor of the Guardian no less has been an ardent Brexiteer well before the referendum. If only the left had embraced change rather than burying their heads in the sand we might have been spared this Johnson shambles of entitlement. Larry Elliott ?The choice is simple: start putting together a post-Brexit progressive project or have a monster sulk and watch the Tories make the political weather.? That was the only choice for Labour post June 2016. They were told. Let?s hope they finally grasp it this time. https://www.spiked-online.com/2018/10/19/the-establishment-is-trying-to-keep-us-in-the-eu/

Well if Brick House with their eye-watering prices and great quality can't make it work in ED what hope is there for lesser mortals. That said there have been quite a few scathing reviews on trip advisor. https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g186338-d10290535-Reviews-Brick_House_Bakery_Cafe-London_England.html#REVIEWS

Bang on ED is one old school / poorer person out - a richer, relatively cashed-up gentrifier in. It's only going one way in the end. An 'investment' here is probably safe as it gets relative to the overall Uk property market as it gets.

Dull but very nice Welling - great train connections to Victoria/Charing Cross 35mins and I believe local schools are good, particularly grammar schools in nearby Bexleyheath not that I have children. Prices around half of ED like for like. Victorian 3 bed terrace 350-400. Very little anti-social behaviour as well - but very Brexitty I'm afraid. A lot of mainland Chinese are buying/renting in the area as it is 'cheap' compared to central London. 3 supermarkets within walking distance Morrisons/Lidl/Tescos and 'proper' shops selling real stuff that you need. The mix is white working-class tradesmen / asian aspirationals/ a few downsizers cashing in on prime London. Lovely Danson Park nearby and you're on the A2 and out into Kent within minutes. No mashed avocado breakfasts or artisan bread/coffee yet though. https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-62307888.html

I think some fundamentals will persist (just some untutored thoughts off the top of my head!) 1. ED will weather an adverse market better than some of the marginal areas that rose with the seemingly endless London boom. 2. The peak of the market was the spring before the Brexit vote - when everything seemed to sell and quick. Prices I would hazard a guess are down 10% from that peak. (see the 3 bedder in Thompson Road above). 3. 925k is a new ceiling for many properties as ?1 over that the stamp duty doubles from 5% to 10%. Unless you have a huge 3 bedder then that would be the very top price. And with a new top then everything has to find it's price point under that ceiling. That's why scope for loft / side returns is at a premium as it negates the need to sell up with all the attendant hassle and costs as a family grows and keeps the 'ticket' price below that magic figure. https://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detailMatching.html?prop=81740825&sale=10600300&country=england 4. 'True' value of a topped out 2 bedder / 'half house' (loft to take it to 3 / side return kitchen extension to garden) is around the 800-825 mark or probably less. https://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detailMatching.html?prop=59606823&sale=10600309&country=england 5. Interest rates are unlikely to rise anytime soon - if anything once the election is over and Johnson gets his majority (urrggh) reality will bite once again and I think the UK will see interest rates staying put or even going down with more QE to keep the Ponzi fed. The London market fed by more overseas 'bargain' buyers will put a floor under the London decline from the peak. 6. If you can't afford ED now then I'm afraid you aren't rich enough anymore so probably best to sell up and move out (I did) for there is much better 'value' and lifestyles elsewhere. 7. Don't worry Waitrose is coming ! 8. This is the highest price ever for SE22 204, Peckham Rye, London, Greater London SE22 0LU ?3,000,000 Terraced, Freehold, Residential 09 Dec 2014 ?600,000 Terraced, Freehold, Residential 19 Jun 1998 Terraced house, Freehold, 8 Beds, 3 Baths, 4 Receps 9. victorian,VICTORIAN,VICTORIAN !