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If you cared universally about Palestinian lives then maybe you should look at what Hamas does to Palestinians who oppose it or don?t conform to its ideas.

Do you ever post anything about what Hamas does to those that oppose it in the territories it controls ? Or is it just a one way street of anti-Israel propaganda?

Blah Blah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The EU has to change, there is no question about > that, and a lot of people who voted for remain did > so because they put trade first and believed that > change around the rest can come from within. > > The EU essentially has had three huge shocks to > its foundations over last fifteen years. First was > the 2008 financial crash, and having to bail out > EU economies. The second was the Syrian war and > the ensuing refugee crisis, and now a global > pandemic. All three of those things challenged the > given consensus. Why? Because consensus on trade > is easy. Consensus on anything outside of that > tests the boundaries of self interest. Those are > the boundaries Farage was able to exploit to great > effect of course. > > Er, I think you?ll find Brexit was as bigger shock to the EU as all of these! A bizarre omission

Blah Blah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The EU has to change, there is no question about > that, and a lot of people who voted for remain did > so because they put trade first and believed that > change around the rest can come from within. > > The EU essentially has had three huge shocks to > its foundations over last fifteen years. First was > the 2008 financial crash, and having to bail out > EU economies. The second was the Syrian war and > the ensuing refugee crisis, and now a global > pandemic. All three of those things challenged the > given consensus. Why? Because consensus on trade > is easy. Consensus on anything outside of that > tests the boundaries of self interest. Those are > the boundaries Farage was able to exploit to great > effect of course. > > Er, I think you?ll find Brexit was as bigger shock to the EU as all of these! A bizarre omission

Well that?s because Ireland, like Belgium, is opposed to any vaccine war as they realise what the long term effect will be on inward investment into the republic. Got to say, all this vaccine stuff is exposing all the things that the long term critics of the EU said - inefficiency, unaccountability, over bureaucratic and dancing to the tune of the French and Germans. I certainly feel less bad about our decision to leave than I did a year ago.

I thought our healthcare professionals were the most wonderful altruistic people on the planet. What have we got to worry about?

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So. To summarise this thread. > > East Dulwich's bleedin heart, liberal, ethical, > morally snug principles are just skin deep, right > on stances as long suspected. They don't even go > as deep as their tastebuds. some of my finest work

That impostor isn't a Foie Gras thread, no way. THIS is a Foie Gras thread

They did also have a genuine clown on it once when Jeremy Corbyn guested

They should have cancelled him for not being remotely funny, which I thought is a prime requirement of a comedian. He, like that awful lot on the Last Leg, seem to think that shouting about how awful the tories are is somehow comedy gold. Beats me. Geoff Norcott, although not that funny himself, is the best bit of The Mash Report because he's not a 'progressive' lefty.

Interesting all those who?d say they?d have a pint with Khan as he doesn?t drink. He?s useless but then so are all the others as far as I can see.

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I think that's fairly unlikely given that Trump and Brexit supporters over index among white working class and blue collars worker and non-metropolitan areas

Why don?t you ever post about repressive and disgusting regimes in Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, Syria? Like many you seen Very selective in your choice of criticism. I wonder why that is?

1/10, been done a million times before a million times better

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Post above for Seabag not Alex

A Brexiter could repeat that back to you almost word for word around the EU

?Ireland will unite? Some not inconsiderable issues with this including. Dublin taking over the ?10bn subsidy that NI currently gets from the UK Adding 50% to the republic?s population overnight including around a million or so who wouldn?t really support this including several thousand pyschopathic extreme unionist morons who wouldn?t accept this. The 2 million people of Northern Ireland giving up their free healthcare Not saying it?s not possible, the republic itself sacrificed reasonable economic security itself to gain independence, and didn?t really recover from this until it joined the EU, but thinking this is a given at the click of a finger is somewhat naive

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Seabag Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > But Scotland is hearts and minds and a whole > back > > history of resentment agains Westminister. And > > this current Team Westminister are pretty tone > > deaf on matters beyond their own wants. Lots of > > talking at people, not much talking to people. > And > > I think Scotland is done with that on the > whole. > > > > Many don't get the resentment Scotland, Wales and > others feel due to history. So many in the past > assumed England is the UK. What is this plan to > send Prince Edward to Scotland - who came up with > that. > > In Wales it's only fear of rule by Cardiff that > keeps many hanging on, not a love of the UK and > gradually that fear will fade. Maybe it?s because it?s a largely manufactured narrative believed by the historically ignorant. 11/55 of our prime ministers have been Scottish for example. The Scottish and Welsh have played a pivotal role in our politics, history and empire ( although like everything else nowadays it?s- ?wasn?t us guv was the awful English. Don?t tell the Irish and Scots embracing their duel celtic broship where the Protestant settlers of Ulster originally came from by the way: Clue: it wasn?t Surrey. I know it?s all become truth of such as it?s believed but it?s largely built on bullshit

Basically the electorate of the EU can do nothing about these useless fuckers, whereas we can do something about our useless fuckers.

I still think Brexit was a mistake largely because of the economic destruction, which was almost entirely the reason I voted remain, with possibly a smidgen of idealism for a grand project, but boy has this vaccine problem highlighted the massive issues of unaccountability (let alone competence) at the EU. It?s no good saying oh but the commission is appointed by elected representatives? because all EU governments will be washing their hands of the EUs incompetence on this and blaming the burecrats ( probably correctly) or obviously the UK ( an absolute disgraceful thing to do). This is a huge democratic defeceit at the heart of governance and accountability. I?m beginning to think I?m glad we?re no longer in it.

I make you right cat. Macron?s also attempting to undermine the UK vaccination with trump like anti-Vax bullshit. The EU (and posters on here) that made such a big thing about preserving the integrity of the GOod Friday Agreement just dropped the bombshell with no notice, not even to the Irish government. Rarely have the DUP and Sinn Fein agreed with each other, bravo EU. Attempts at Gangsterism to cover up its own incompetence on vaccination.

Lewis, Leigh-on-Sea, Whitstable are the normally mentioned ones

I tell you another joke. Ed Milliband.