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COME ON TIM

Yup. Mine were green, 6 buttoned high weighsters, you could hide a lit Number 6 in the pockets when you bumped into your mum's friends

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Blue & white checked Oxford bags. It still makes > me shudder when I think about 'em. Did they have buttoned low down side pockets Jah?

:)) Those are for champions.

Current odds (Betfair) West Ham 5.8 Leicster 7.8 Brum 10.5 Reading 13.5 Forest 14.5 'boro 15

It's quite funny - cos at that age for a few weeks they don't get the concept that they can actually get out themselves. BTW Our mini-bed is about 4 inches off the ground!

Poor Spurs You can always groundshare with the Gooners, or do you want our old place?

...and up pops freak of the week

hey, there's nothing wrong with 'music to get your hair cut to' :))

...i dunno, all this cool snearing at others. My personal disasters have included Diamond Pringle sweaters Red Leg Warmers Jellies with white socks (as a fashionionable look!) ...but I believe the Mullet wins, as some of you know ::o

YES. 18 month yerar old 1p is in a bed. After 6 years the cot HAS LEFT THE BUILDING. Can't wait for nappies to join the list..

Daring doesn't work to get people on the Dancefloor as they need to know the song so to a non-specialist funk/soul crowd I'd go for a sort of a compromise; I Wish - Stevie Wonder (if you can't dance to this give up) Money's too tight to mention - Valentine Brothers, people would obvioulsy recognise the song and realise what a load of crappy sludge Simply Red's Blue Eyed soul cover version is in comparison Any classic by Chic - can't be faulted A bit more specilialist i'd go Love Injection - Trussel (Disco at its best) Expansions - Lonnie Liston Smith (Jazz Funk at its best) Freak of the Week - Funkadelic (Funk at its best)

Parking the rights and wrongs aside - the media can't really be criticised for publishing photos of the girls at the front in their bras etc at a self named Slutwalk, but maybe that wasn't your point Rosie? just an observation. Anyway, it's got far more debate globally than if it had been "Women against violence walk" or something similar has worked in that sense and I think that's good. PS Victoria Coren's poker column is ther only readable thing in the Guardian ;-) She is a very decent poker player too

Men in bowler hats in the City All the buildings covered in soot StPauls dominating the skyline Bombsites ....Chelsea in the 2nd division (old money) with 12,000 fans ;-)

to quote someone on Twitter... Unless something bad happens, Rory McIlroy is surely about to become the first Northern Irishman to win the US Open since McDowell in 2010.

He's looking good so far today. I really hope he does it...I think he will.

agreed DJKQ, which is why I included Obscene poverty in my post. The sweatshops for Nike in Vietnam etc have 1000s longing to work in them becuse 25p and hour beats 0p an hour.It's disgusting it's horrible but eventually it pulls countries and their people out of starvation rather than depending on western handouts, a gloomy truth I think. But we should try an be ethical about our shopping (non ironic statement) although this will then benefit the next tier up economies where garment workers get 75p an hours, say Indoneisa. The developing world is gradually getting richer, or rapidly in a few cases and we are going to have toi give up some of our cosy arrangements of the past to compete

pS and Louisa

sj In my snearing i make a constant point of saying 'liberals' as for actual liberals, i'm proud to consider myself one. Personally i'm sick of the constant snearing on here of middle england, Daily Mail and Sun readers, and the white working class, many of whom are thoroughly decent people with huge commonsense and the backbone of this country, I just fight their corner a bit against smug, metropolitan hypocracy....which I see constantly on here, Diddums for the poor Guardian readers my sniping obviuolsy hurts the poor darlings, Snorky and I are obviously the majority opinion on here or maybe just pricking your bourgeois insecurity a bit too much. Anyway this is the Drawing Room, where we are laughably not meant to make it personal.

Since 2006 the situation for the poorest of the poor has worsened with the biofuel and climate change induced food crisis having led to a steep increase in world and domestic food prices in 2007/2008. In some countries the prices of staples such as maize, wheat and rice have doubled in the past 18 months. DJ - I said 30 years, not the financial crisis. We can all be selective on our dates but global free trade and capitalism has raised millions and millions out of subsistence level poverty across the globe...anyone who thinks otherwise is mad.

criticism is easy

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > On the one hand, we hear the left have had an > "open goal for 4 years" (why? because everyone > else has been so wrong? By implication anyway) > > But it turns out it's not REALLY an open goal > because there is no alternative to current > thinking according to ???? > > That open goal is a mirage. And they are fools, > FOOLS I TELL YOU, to even aspire to anything else > (however clumsily) Well tell me yours then or just snipe and say oooh let's keep it as it is? until we're bust. I don't see any open mindedness on this just prejudice and occasional vitriol from those are quite cosy with the unworkable status quo. Come on Strafer, sell me something else I am genuinely interested and open minded, unlike most on here I'd say..... There is an alternative but I don't know what it is, isn't that convincing to me to be honest strafer. Be bold and contribute.

There are many more people in the world than there were a decade ago and poverty is a relative measure...so stop the crass sloganeering. You been to India now and 30 years ago? You been to China now and 30 years ago? Even Sun-saharan Africa is looking better than ten tears ago. Obscene poverty yes but soo much better than before when the model was patronising or politically motivated handouts from the west or Russia rtaher than global free trade...but, worse for us in blighty now we have to compete...

Come on when was the last bit of radical or progressive thinking from the left? They've had an open goal for the past 4 years and still failed to provide much of an alternative. Genuienely how do we compete in a global eceonomy which is pulling millions out of global poverty but gradually eroding the wealth and priveliged poition that the west has enjoyed at the rest of the worlds expense for too many years? hint it doesn't involve maintaining uneconomivc benefits and agreements drawn up when things were very different. We'll go bust in the end unles we embrace the need for change....as progressive unions/workers in say car mannufacturing have realised, white collar middle class PS workers still seem to think there's a goose with golden eggs somehwere (or the money tree SJ)