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On a kind of related note I get into London Bridge at 11pm most Thursday nights nowadays, sober... and it makes you realise how spectacularly pissed 90% of the people wandering around are at 11pm...I mean really pissed, shoutty too loud, hysterical screech laughing, staggering, wobbling, eyes in opposite directions...made me realise that I traditionally have very rarely been out and about sober at that time myself. Gawd knows what visitors to these shores make of it.

Read the Sunday Papers and go to the cinema are my favourites,,,but don't know how comfy the cinema is with a bump

When in Lyme Regis spoil your toddlers holiday by reinacting 'that' scene from the 'French Luitenant's Woman'

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Come on we're hogging this thread

tee hee daizie..nearly a LadyM stylee wet pant episode

I need curing

I've heard rasher theories

Gents just as bad, pah, rubbish. I have it from my two spys in the Ladies camp that they PM each other and various others about almost every post.

Looking forward to it....surely a european win

More importantly, who are you actually supporting in the Premiership this season Mick?

To be honest if I'd only had a binary choice I'd have voted Tory rather than Labour at the last election as it was the Lib Dems got my vote and I'm happy with the coalition so far. I'm done with tribalism per se as I had enough of that in my life a long, long time ago and most of the stereotypes, bile and prejudice that I have seen since the election have come from the unions and Labour and their supporters (including a fair bit on here) not all. I, like most people, want a decent, functioning, healthy society and think that economic competency underpins that - I can't see that with a Labour Party led by someone owned by the Unions. I'm genyuinely willing to listen Ed to see if that won't be the case but I suspect that I won't be convinced, I think David M would have had more of a chance and would have been more convincing and genuienly more inclusive. The assumption that voting Labour gives you some sort of piuos moral high ground is idiocy and "I don't vote for me" is one the most sanctomonious post straight from the Guardian I've seen on here Sean - do you want a sainthood?. Thinking that all people who didn't vote for the awful shower who just got the boot are completly motivated by self is tribal idiocy and insulting. I'm quite liking coalition in the dire circumstances we are in for all sorts of reasons.

My real name is Sterling

Lol - have you really looked at the drivel your posting or is this all in all not a bad windup by someone attempting to sound like there's some logic behind their homespun, contaradctory, idiotic drivel?

It takes a lot of 5 Year olds' wee and that's a fact Ladyg

0.5/10

To add - I think that Labour Party members and committed Union members tend also to talk too much to themselvse (and often through the Guardian...not fishing here) and honestly not 'get' that the trad working class don't exist as they once did, that Unions tend to represent Public Sector workers who are about 20%(?) of teh workforce and that, and voting history bears me out on this, the british electorate aren't that keen when it moves too far off the centre, especially to the left. Has their been a paradigm shift in people's attitude becuase of the financial meltdown? I don't see much evidence of it.

Oh, don't get me wrong, aside from my actual personal opinions/views on the merits or otherwise od Ed, in terms of Labour's strategy I believe the media and criticism will be to go on about Red Ed and I think some will stick, and to the degree that he was largely put in by the Unions then there will be some traction to this, but it will of course be exaggerated and had already started pre the result. So, for those reasons alone I personally think Labour would have had more chance under the other one. But, of course, as you said Sean we will see.

3/10 - have you only got one bait?

Taxi's don't come here? Never been turned down

MOTD for me tonight for the first time this season....;-)

I just get the feeling here that taking your children out is more about keeping up with the Jones's than anything else To be patronining and shouty, because that's all I can be with that response,,, Going to pubs/cafes with kids is largely FOR THE PARENTS WHO ARE ENTITLKED TO GET OUT OR THEY'D GO FUCK*ING MAD..you haven't got a clue what it's like to have young kids and being told what to do with one's kids by the childless is like being lectured on how to park by someone whose never driven a car. Luckily, most people without kids do get this as indded most of us parents did when we were childless, yes we wwere there one day If the biggest w*nkers in the places you go for a beer or to have a Coffee or a beer are kids and parenmts you must know some damn fine drinking establishments..... A real creche where you pay and the kids are amongst other kids is what my friends use when they want to go out. ..what when they want a fooking pint at lunchtime or a quick cup of coffee.... FFS

Ha ha ha - I've family in Italy and lived in Spain and if you think children there who tend to stay up until midnight aren't tearing round bars, restaurants andrthe neighbourhood causing mayhem you are seriously deluded...if anything the comparison is that people in Europe tend to have a far more tolereant attititude to kids than people over here. It's a dull old argument much repeated and there are plenty of people without kids who don't come out with the same old boring crap but do you think half the places - bars/cafes in ED you visit at the weekends /evenings would be open without the significant trade the "oh so lazy, loll about yummy mummy's" bring? but at the weekends they are just for the childless? As Hugenot says, the establishments rather than weekend drinkers no how valuable this trade is and so hence veery few exclkude them....they'd go bust.

DC - the problem for ED is crystalsed by your post. You're, I think, a consistent and commited socialist. I think there are many similar socialists in the Labour Party and certainly the Trade Unions, many of whom on voted for Ed or presumably he got their 2nd vote over Dave (apologies if intacacies of the Leadership vote are wrong).But, you are socialists a pretty small, possibly shrinking, part of the electorate. We've never really bought into it, even Atlee only got one terms. Ed made all the right noises to win the 'party' vote and all the wrong ones for the electorate. I expect the Tories are delighted.

or any Liverpool fans after a an awful bit of gamesmanship for a goal? shocking according to the radio....