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well you seem pretty good at insulting Sean for the cheek of being a moderator so no doubt you could.

I like Stevie Wonder too

But that's the problem with paranoid people, they tend to read between the lines rather than what's ACTULLY written

two frightened teams. Both managers said 'Whatever happens we musn't lose'.

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I thought quids broke one if his own rules tho > ladymuck, don't you think? busted

Declan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I haven't read all of this thread but enough to > get the gist that Hal is upsetting Sean who has > stated he should retire like Piers. Meanwhile Hal > was warned not to upset anyone else (ie a > moderator) or the forum would be shut down. Thus > if Sean in his role, which I'm not sure I can > mention out loud, were to retire from it, then it > would be HAL's fault and the end of the forum > would be nigh.As my post about moderators was > moved to the 'about the forum' section which > nobody ever looks at, should I conclude that there > is some conspiracy happening here about which I > know very little but which appears to have on one > side HAL as the victim and two others as the > aggressors? Or have I got that all wrong? Help! that's one of the most paranoid posts i've ever read

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...and an unambitious City as well

HAL9000 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ???? Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Well, that's a fairly abitary and wide > definition. > > It does help to define things properly before > arguing about them. > > > I would argue that most people would accept that > a > > CT is one where groups of people disagree with > the > > consensus or 'establishment' view about > something > > and one where they think the 'establishment' is > > hiding the truth > > By your argument, it is the Israeli government > that is hiding the truth. Are they somehow exempt > from being the focus of a conspiracy theory? I > don't think so. > I would argue that most people would accept that a > CT is one where groups of people disagree with the > consensus or 'establishment' view about something > and one where they think the 'establishment' is > hiding the truth I think you missed this bit,,,you telling me if you want to apub in London, a bar in Tel Aviv or a Cafe in The West Bank and said.."Pssst.that assassination in Dubai..it was Mossad", you'll get any reaction other than "no sh1t Sherlock"!

..someone lacks some backbone methinks........ and the 'don't hide' bit is highly ironic! Does this mean I'm in the Inner Circle now?

HAL9000 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ???? Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > conspiracy? It's what most of the world > including > > HMs governnemt thinks! > > That may be what everyone thinks - but until it is > proven it remains a theory - a conspiracy theory. Well, that's a fairly abitary and wide definition. I would argue that most people would accept that a CT is one where groups of people disagree with the consensus or 'establishment' view about something and one where they think the 'establishment' is hiding the truth for various reasons (eg 9/11, Diana's Death. MMR etc) your definition seems to be anything not proven in a court of law...

conspiracy? It's what most of the world including HMs governnemt thinks!

yeah,I mean take this forum for instance..........

,,,presumably you didn't share your views on global warming with them?

well maybe but the oil thang was being mooted back in 1981 and still not a barrell.

They were discovered and inhabited by the British

I don?t want us out of the EU I don't wantt he next massive change until a clear case is made and it's democratically accepted ? it?s not all white hats and black hats two dimensional arguments. I say ?think? because i always think about my beliefs and politics and question them constantly I would have hoped that is what people should do rather than say ?I?m a XXXist, right where?s my box of beliefs and stances based on that and who are the enemy?, sadly I?m na?ve when it comes to this. I think my arguments against a federalist Europe are all about political engagement - we are miles away from it as are many in many european countries. Ideally it would be good but a look at the differences in political culture between just the major countries worry me, let alone all the newer ones. It will be interesting to see what the German people think if they have to keep bailing out southern European countries whose attitudes towards their citizenship/participation and responsibilities to the state are miles and miles away from ours and the Germans. In spite of the ?horrible mob? political engagement is vital for a functioning society and it?s bad enough as it is in this country without having further, undemocratic shifts away from our ?people?s sovereignty? - all very inconvenient for you idealists but utterly fundamental. It?s not up to sceptics to create an alternative vison they have one individual sovereign states within a European economic union, it?s up to the politicians who want a superstate to create a workable and clear vision and sell it to us not get it in through the back door which has been their MO to date I am in favour of an economic union which has/does/would give us all of the macro economic benefits H alludes to as well as practically all the laughable ones in the Indies list. It is also this that has given us 50 years of peace not the next stage. I'm in also in favour of sensible and shared responsibility and co-operation in areas such as crime, eqyuality laws etc even defence (NATO seemed to work for 50 odd years mind and without the French) but these have been delivered to date with what we've got. As it happens I don?t think the Euro will survive in its present form.

Plus to continually label people who dare to question question further Eiropean integration as Johhny Foreigners haters is schoolkid debating that even writers for The Guardian have realised shows them to be idiots. I question it, I have family in Southern Italy, have lived in Spain and even eat pasta...you should try some thinking rather than stereotypical crap....Your charachetures of eurosceptics as Retired Colonels from the home counties circa 1955 shows just how out of touch YOU are with modern thinking

Shame about democracy and all that Hugenot bloody plebs. Of course those people in history utterly convinced in the rightness of their beliefs, outwardly firm in the conviction of their intellectual prowess with obvious contemp to any counter view and with a intellectual arrogance towards the will of the people have presented us with some fantasic states...

It's a retired Boffin

He WILL blame them behind closed doors though, in contrast say to old rent a quote Harry's slagging off of Bent via the media...I know which I think is probably more effective and professional

I didn't realise the editorial team from Nuts were all posters on the EDF

banned

That's the one

Well there are more than several other posters on here also arguing for a 'lost cause'. stop digging and start arguing if that's what you want. I answered your question about the CC thread yonks ago if you could be bothered to actually read through, your tone was patroninsing 'have you actually read' so your touchiness at my use of 'eh' is a bit laughable and Mockney himself said that I was right about the reasons he'd resigned after you bleated on about it 'just being my opinion'. Yup, for sure I'm a poster who always dips out of debates when someone disagrees with me...do you actually read any of my posts? Now where's that Jah Lush quote about debating I'm searching for.