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I don't disagree with you much on this Blah, especially the wage gap thing. I think this is now very difficult to fix because the tax position is very precarious in terms of raising them. For every millionaire luvy who'd pay 60% ( admirable but fairly easy when you're in the ?10m+ wealth ) there's a fair few quiet high earners who wouldn't (as France found out) and in the UK these are even more important for tax revenue. Plus even a basic rate increase say inadvertently most effects the lower end of even 40% tax payers who are already pretty squeezed and take less out and have less support eg tax credits/child allowance etc. We need people to start dying earlier (a joke) or a medical breakthrough to reduce significant treatment costs in something like cancer

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I dunno... he has a point. Criticism of Israel > should not be confused with anti-Semitism. > > People say that the left has a problem with > anti-Semitism - maybe it's just that the left > don't feel as much need to cosy up with the US and > Israel? But happy to cozy up with Putin and Islamic anti-semites and terrorist sympathizers and worst. Yup. good for them and their 'principles'

Large parts of the left is anti-semitic - and one of the reasons is an obvious 'elephant in the room' - but they were always anti-Israel as it's the west innit, and many who are anti -Isreal + anti-business + a bit inclined to CT nuttery are anti-semitic too - obviously been compounded by Israel's terrible policies and response to the Palestinian issue. Livingstone also has some previous on this; Corbyn, whilst maybe OK on this himself; has surrounded himself forever by these idiots and being an ideologue is unable to really face up to or properly condemn this - this goes hand in hand with the extremist he is in reality. A joke he hinted he wouldn't meet with Obama but stands on platforms with those that are brazenly anti-semitic and pro-terrorism. Ironically, McDonnell has been much clearer and firmer on this. Livingstone has always struck me as a pretty horrible specimen of humanity to be honest - divisive, self-seeking, manipulative and egotistical...an all round scumbag.

mmm - i think the issue with garden (complaints from neighbours) will remain as that's what stopped it in the first place. Also looks like they are building back a fair bit.

Hadn't the big garden been closed- for sometime - prior to refurb?

The top one per cent of earners will pay almost a third of income tax by 2020 and now nearly half of all working adults don't pay it at all, new figures reveal. Rapid increases in the tax-free personal allowance since 2010 have led to a sharp decline in the number of people paying any income tax, according to analysis by the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS). The comprehensive study found that the proportion of adults paying income tax fell from 65.7 per cent in 2007/8 to just 56.2 per cent last year. The fall came despite a surge in the number of people in employment during the period. The IFS said there was growing evidence of an ?increased reliance on a small number of taxpayers?, with the proportion of total income tax paid by the top one per cent of earners rising from 24.4 per cent to 27.5 per cent at the same time. The figures mean that some 300,000 individuals now contribute more than a quarter of the Government?s entire income tax take - equivalent to ?49billion or ?140,000 each. The figures give the lie to Labour claims that the Government?s austerity drive has been targeted unfairly at the poor. But the IFS warned that the increasing reliance on taxes from the better off was potentially ?unpredictable and risky?. The think tank said tax revenues would ?become more sensitive? to the income growth of a relatively small group of taxpayers. Under George Osborne the personal allowance has risen from ?6,475 to ?11,000, lifting millions of people out of the basic rate of income tax entirely. The Chancellor has pledged to raise the allowance to ?12,500 by 2020 as part of a drive to position the Tories as the ?workers? party?.

I didn't say Junior Doctors did I. If you read my thread it goes on about the outcomes of a career as a doctor in the longer term. You need to concentrate Mick,

my son goes to a private school - the single most represented group of parents (by far) are Doctors. I really fail to buy the the 'poor doctor line' they do a great job mainly, they study a lot at high academic levels to get there, and as juniors they work some very long hours, but in the long term they have financial, job and retirement security that the rest of us can only dream of. They really shouldn't strike IMO BUT, i feel there is something else going on

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Unclegen - I support free schools and academies - > the creation of many different providers is a good > thing. But forcing academisation on successful > schools who dont' want it however, is ridiculous > (and very unconservative, as you wish to make > this, like everything, into a pro tory political > rant). It's moving power and decision making away > from local communities and schools in order to > centralise power in Whitehall. I tend to agree with this. I'm in favour of academies but also choice - this feels overtly political to me. I think plenty of Conservative LAs think so too.

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If we vote for Brexit, I guarantee you that the UK > will still sign up for TTIP. Which rather > nullifies everything in Jah's post. To be honest, Jah's post is way too much in the CT nutter camp for me anyway

Blah - you bang on about the export thing continually as if exports would collapse go if we left. They wouldn't and as we are in trade defeceit with the EU we are actually more important to them than us, it's a red herring and a false argument as much as the Brexit stuff is. So if you are going to lecture on opinion vs facts you need to be more honest about the pro case. Race and sexual discrimination acts were passed by UK governments they are not just there because of the EU.

Hi numbers good to see you back! The Dr is trying one of his 2nd rate versions of the 100 game again.

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ?70 to clean an oven. ?60 for window cleaning. > ?100 for scooping leaves out of gutter. Where will > it end? When it's ?15 for posh cheese on toast I'm out

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Jules-and-Boo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > (and for those 'social media haters'... EDF Lounge > is a form of it) ......but it's not exactly is it because we are aliases/anomynous

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > You can scoff at those with their pithy-icky > tributes to X Y and Z but the truth is that the > decision ?not? to comment or ?show anything? can > be just as much of a signal. I agree - which is EXACTLY why I was so pissed off Mick Mac seemed to think I'd been leading a sentimental grief charge for Bowie rather than noticing I was far too cool to indulge

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How the **** did Enya get to be so rich? - Clannad :)

I think (genuinely) it shows how many/most people are pretty emotionally retarted - they kind of find some solace for a whole bunch of hurt in themselves in this mass expression of grief for people they don't know.

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Otta Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I agree about the emotional side Quids. I've > > posted things on FB but find the emotional > > outpouring weird, especially after Bowie, that > was > > getting towards Diana territory (can you even > > imagine what social media would have been like > had > > it existed in 1997?). > > I thought Quids was one of the social media > ringleaders on Bowie's death. Nope, very wrong - one post only on Facebook with Wild is the Wind at 7am on the morning he died and no comment. Go and check. I was a true fan of Bowie and started a thread on him here yeras back. But I don't do death on social media

Maybe I'm a repressed old fooker But the whole social media ting and celebrities death is just another type of Virtue Signalling to me Prince - i liked him, I have Purple Rain and Sign of the Times, his talent was immense, very sad but... I felt the same about Bowie to be honest (who I am an enormous fan of) People I actually knew personally and loved very much have died, these talented people dying, even when abstractly they've been part of my life, just doesn't emotionally cripple me in the way thousands of others seem to be effected? Anyone else concur or is it just me? Paul Daniels however......

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Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ???? Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > 200 > > That's bloody optimistic as well as being > premature. Not with your new Views thing - which is crap

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Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > DulwichFox Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > It just makes some people feel better in > > themselves that such shops are on their 'High > > Street' > > whether they can afford them or not. > > Have you anything to support this theory Fox or is > it what you imagine people to feel? Foxy? With some evidence for his cod-psychology? Behave.

My last ever visit to UP tonight* :( . My ready reckoning Is I've been there between 400-500 times so maybe an emotional quids tonight. *thought the last one (spurs) was my last admittedly