SeanMacGabhann

Can everyone stop swearing at each other please? Offending posts removed Play nicely or don't play at all

don't call Atila English Doh - too late now!

could just be you two going if this conversation lasts much longer...

But are undoubtedly similar to the gay community reclaiming the word "queer" from the queer-bashers

aaaaand back to the topic in question...

I have a softer spot for the Chris Rea tune than most others as well Mick But Fairytale of NY is wearing thin after all these years

ratty - I frequently disagree with Marmora Man on his politics but I do admire the calmess with which he explains those beliefs (he does it much better than me for example) - the forum is a better place for people like him around So I tend to agree with the points you are making but you can make your case easily without dismissing MM as simply arrogant.

I think Song is developing nicely as a possible Vieira But the failings I see are pretty much what quids said. Ni plan be when walking the ball into the net doesn't work. Plus, I think heads dropped too soon for my liking after the OG. Yes the second half started well again but to many bad decisions around the box

So many of the same failings from the last 5 years repeated over and over again.

You have managed to misrepresent every single point silverfox Well done

Yes silverfox, you are confused

the country hasn't gone mental daizie. Where is your evidence of that? What exactly are you prevented from doing because things have "gone to far"? Stick to the thread... where do you stand on the toothpaste brand?

You don't think stopping "naff" stuff helps prevent the "really nasty" stuff? DO you think that items such as this should still be ok? Genuinely? Seriously? Because if the answer is yes then the mind boggles. If your answer is no then the ridiculous and politically retarded work done in the 80s has played a part in stamping out racism...

please what? he is saying, in 2009, that to take offence at such an item is ridiculous and politically retarded so, what has it got to do with the 80s?

I don't think it was genuine GSJ57, more of a troll-y post. Quids would give it 5/10 I reckon It's no less pathetic for that, tho

so series 5 opener and the photocopier lie detector scene? Homicide Life on the Streets (David Simon's original book provided the source) was the initial attempt at bringing the book to TV - so..

why would anyone BUY "toothpaste named 'Darkie Boy', it's logo was a picture of a negro wearing a top hat. " And why is it a "ridiculous, politically retarded mindset. " to see that it's all kinds of wrong?

But why still persist with death rates when I have already said that isn't my main concern (at the moment) And comparing death rates in Chinese Mines is as useful as comparing death rates from car accidents and terrorism - it's not pertinent to the argument Yes France is merrily building and using nuclear power stations and to date there is no problem - no argument there. BUt are you genuinely satisfied with what's happening with the waste? You don't think that's going to be a jack-in-the-box surprise for someone down the line? And if everyone piles in and goes nuclear at the same levels as the french that's a F*** load more waste no-one knows what to do with. Or am I missing something? PS the media argument is ridiculous but you're the one the keeps snatching it out of the ether and I merely ask why? And accusations such as "Guardian readers are really so uncomfortable with criticism of the paper" annoy me because I don't recall any defense of the paper - I just said using guardian-readers as lazy shorthand was just that.

The only person who ever going to bother clicking on this link has probably already done so and laughed at the same hermione joke I did so I'm not sure why I am even bothering... but just in case, it's a review of CoD VI by Zero Punctuation. And it's funny

I'm quite uncomfortable with the ongoing reference to newspapers and left v right debate. Historically there has been a bit of that but for you to keep referring to it suggests you are the one clinging on to the past not me. Let's have the "Guardian = The Mail" debate elsewhere... How many people have been killed by nuclear energy? Not many as far as I can tell... Is that the sole question? Believe me, I want an easy, safe, clean option. If nuclear is it, count me in. But to buy into it at the moment appears to me to be like listening to financial advisers in 2004 telling me not to worry about financial bubbles. "Economic luddites" is a phrase I remember But if you are insisting there is no/little risk, and that a few dozen deaths are comparable to any other industry then who am I to argue. Radiation levels? Cancer increases? The completion date for the confinement structure for Chernobyl is years behind date - scheduled for 2012 at time of writing. This is a project to limit the damage of a plant that went wrong in 1986. This suggests wilful neglect on a massive scale... a lot of people for many years going "the risks are tiny, tiny"... "whats that? oh..." And I am meant to believe that things have progressed? I have an open mind but I have yet to see anything to convince me that the rewards outweigh the risks on nuclear

Geez - sorry to hear about that Keef. I tend to do the same as you when toerags try and barge on but I've not had anything like that happen to me

It's like a lit but there are 2 of them

And by "going down that road" I pretty much mean The Road (Cormac McCarthy) No-one wants to give up any of the things you mention but it's all pointless having them for 20 years only to find out we've poisoned everything I know my position is open to accusations of fear-mongering etc, but it really is the equivalent of betting the whole house...

Well you're allowed to be pissed off but I'm not sure why - you seem to be taking this a tad too personally Cynical we may be, and I'm not arguing for a second with you or bignumber5, but anyone who has been to several weddings a year for the last decade or two will recognise plenty in what Brendan and *Bob* say That's not to diminish your wedding, or any other happy couples wedding, but looking at the wider picture... ?

Well, it is the claim by many But no, on your main point I agree. Some big, hard choices ahead. But I'm not too keen on the easy comparisons you make either. It's not that I think wind power people = lovely, and nuclear power = Bad Men! And generalising about Guardian readers (again!) and putting words in their mouth still hacks me off. So to be clear, my starting point is this: Regardless of the impending shortage of fossil fuels, I think nuclear is a no-go for the simple reason that we can't handle it. We just can't. I like the ingenuity of it I like much of the thinking behind it, but we aren't able to safely produce it and I do believe we are sowing the seeds of our own destruction by going down that road. However well intentioned So, what are the alternatives. None viable really - not yet. But as we still have the intelligence and sufficient (I'm hoping) energy to research further (and big strides have been made in recent decades) alternatives I would rather we did that