a great post Marmora and getting the kudos it deserved I've taken the postcode/wall/them posts with a pinch of salt as I think a whole bunch of views (some tongue in cheek, some looking for a rise, some possibly genuine) have been conflated, but as clear a line in the sand that is a splendid effort Again, my thoughts go to the family involved, but for the rest of us... it's one thing to feel fear, to be aware of it and admit it. It's another thing to give in to it.... Today I changed nothing - walked back via parts of Peckham and ED on the way home. Absolutely fine. And for pretty much every one of us that is how life will continue