be fair Nero, must of what gets typed on here falls into the same category Libra has a point and is wondering how others feel about it - dear God, hopefully it won't turn into another family/pushchairs rant, but it's absolutely correct to say that schoolruns are dreadful examples of people being pushy, lazy and feckless towards others As for PCSOs - I know this much - if they do start issuing these people fines, the indignation will be priceless