Madworld, be careful what you wish for. London does pretty well with crime considering it's history, size and poulation. Give me 2007 above 1907 anyday in this town. Mark is correct to caution against overreacting - it may appear from time to time that things are getting out of hand, and no-one should advocate passive acceptance - but having a sense of perspective is hugely important. Is it really getting worse, and if it is, is it not just one of those temporary blips than happen? Some things seem to me to be getting worse (public manners) but many other things seem a lot better (violent crime is down, burglary is downetc - that doesn't mean it won't happen to me or you, but if we are saying things are getting worse, well.. that's not wholly accurate) As for moving out to the sticks (wherever that is...) I find town centres in even the smallest British towns far more frightening than anything I see in London. If sleepy Devon can scare me on a Saturday night (as it did last week) then give me London any day Oh - and what were all the locals talking about? Crime, shootings, blah blah. The weirdest stories and the most horrific crimes I read about in the national press always happen in Sleepington, Humfordshire or somesuch Stick with us dear, you'll be fine