SeanMacGabhann

7:30-8:00? Check Hoopers? Check? Cashpoint beforehand as no cashpoint or cards near the pub? Check See everyone there..

Lol. There is a bit of that but i have been impressed by beer selection. At least 3 wheat beers. 3 ales including harveys. Peroni. Bud var and paula ner amongst the lager. Some proper looking cider too

Judging by the "look" of The Plough it will be much closer to The Crown & Grehound/Phoenix type of bar than to the Harvester... I'll be trying it out VERY soon

har de har

Bah - I thought this thread was about Mockney Piers

Attack?? What attack? No attacks on this thread .. Just polite joshing amongst friends. Even the Louisa reference was a fond tease about how Louisa is partial to nostalgia. Nowt wrong with that...

You know I knew what you meantyou cheeky Mockney - I have always used the term to describe my tastes as well - but with the likes of the Kooks moving their tanks onto my lawn...

or what used to be knows as indie anyway - these days what is termed "indie" bears as much relation to what was as modern r'n'b to does to the original r'n'b music

Thank you Bill Hicks

The Smoking Room - much underrated sitcom. Good spot MP

Ok - at home (at last - today was sloooowwwwww...) So for this chicken malarkey - lets get the rub for the chicken ready -I've included measurements to get a rough idea of combinations but I often change amounts depending on mood/availability 1 tbs salt 1 tsp freshly ground black pepper 1 tsp freshly ground white pepper 1/2 tsp cayenne pepper 1/2 tsp paprika 1 tsp garlic powder1/2 tsp onion powder 1/2 tsp onion powder 1/4 tsp ground coriander 1/4 tsp ground cumin pinch each of dried basil, oregano & thyme Pestle & mortar the lot (or use a coffee grinder I guess - more fiddly cleaning tho) That should be enough to cover 4 big chicken breasts - speaking of which.. get your chicken breasts on the bone. You need that moisture. I am going to strongly suggest you get them at William Rose but if you doubt me, get some from there and some from whichever supermarket you usually go to - and cook them all together - if you can't tell the difference between the 2 then..... I despair So - chicken breasts - dredge them in the rub. Don't spare the horses. Get it everywhere and get it on thick. Rub it on hard so it doesn't just fall off. But them all on a baking dish and pour 250 ml water and 250ml vegetable (not olive!) oil all over them. Sprinkle liberal amounts of hot paprika and chili powder over all of the chicken - several tablespoons in my case Get your oven up to about 120 degrees C or 250 F (yes that is low) and bung the tray in. For 5 hours. That's FIVE hours. Baste fully every 30 mins or so. After 5 hours it will be deeply brown and crispy on the outside and to die for in the inside For me it has to be mash with this (tarted up with some spring onions and paprika) but you can have what you like

Keef - loving your work as much as I do, you wrote "However, it was always my opinion that they knew a pub was a smokey place, and they could either go there or stay away... They had the option, something that us lepers haven't had." "Either go or stay away" doesn't sound like much of a choice to me. But as you believe it is, the good news is that the choice is now passed on to smokers. You know pubs are smoke free so you can choose to go there or stay away....

Put it this way, it's never been a hindrance ;-) Any road - these days it's as much about relaxation as it is about seduction. And working in an office job it's good to actually start and finish something tangible and the end of the day I still haven't posted any recipes because I haven't had the time to sit down and type - I expect I'll go for the slow-baked (5 hours!) spicy chicken breasts when I do get around to it

Glad you had a good night out - it's funny how some people from oop North are so surprised to have a good time when they come down here isn't it? But Saturday nights out are easy - it's the Sunday nights out you have to watch out for. Ouch..... My head hurts today

sorry benjaminty - not had a problem. We have seen some top films (and some rubbish ones) but not had any issues with the discs

enough with the fag talk - it's not banned in public places - just enclosed spaces. There is a difference And even if Steph is a no show, that doesn't excuse you two - get down there or face humiliation-by-forum (I couldnt seem to inject humour into those two sentences so feel free to add your own.. ;-) )

Yet mean the big hand is at 6 and the small hand is at . . . Etc. Where you watching? Have to get ready for an evening so not sure ill make it. But just in case. .

Bleep thanks for the recipe. I intend to reply in full later when i reach a proper connection. But a recipe thread is a great idea

Cean taim e

Reading this in a lovely smoke free pub and laughing like a drain. . if anyone tries one of the rides . . . Careful now

Come on spadetowndboy - you are more sussed than that comment let's on. Democracy doesn't mean anyone can do what they like. As Spock said, "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" I understand how being told you can no longer spark up does affect you - and is a pain in the behind. But you can see the bigger picture as well surely?

I was never deemed escort material spacedtownboy but I had to attend many a rural Irish wedding - and the phrase you used describes my experience perfectly too Ahh memories...

Spadetownboy said: "all these ex and non smokers are now coming out of the woodwork to say how great it is that they can now have a drink in a smoke free environment well it didnt seem to bother them too much when smoking was allowed" You are kidding right? I think it says a lot about the attitude of smokers that DESPITE years of people tutting, moving away from the, asking them not to smoke, campaigning for smoke free pubs etc that apparently we were never heard. Quelle Surprise (I should point out that some of my best friends are smokers etc etc - and I love them dearly but I say the same to them) There has been a lot of heated debate on radio and tv shows lately about civil liberties, nanny state, my-health-is-my-own-business etc And I am pro civil-liberties. pro minimal state interference. and pro-my-health-is-my-business argument But this isn't about that. It's not about YOU. It's about the people around you. Relating to a previous thread where the merits of old-school pubs versus what now constitutes a modern pub is the fact that a much wider constituency now frequents pubs. And like people traveling on buses, trains, planes it just isn't on for smoke to be in peoples faces anymore. We can jump up and down about it as much as we like but that's the bottom line. And no-one would seriously repeal those laws on planes/trains/buses now. You can still smoke yourself to death as fast as you like. But the rest of us get to enjoy life a bit more As for the argument - therre should be "choice" ( a word devalued by successive governments. I don't want CHOICE of hospital, I want my local one to work properly) - this usually means: 1) I should be able to choose to smoke: well so should people be able to choose not to inhale smoke - even in the pub or 2) there should be a choice of smoking and non-smoking pubs. Well, of course at ANY time before the ban was mooted all pubs had that choice - to be smoking or non-smoking. The reason so very very few were non-smoking is that it stops it being a level playing field. Groups of friends inevitably consist of both smokers and non-smokers but if they all went out together do you seriously thing the smokers would accept the non-smoking venue? This is democracy in action, not a nanny state. Most people do want this and in a few years time it won't even be an issue. It is not the thin end of the wedge. "But if they stop smoking in pubs drink will be next!!!"... Sit down, take a deep breath and... relax. That. Isn't. Going. To. Happen. Because, unlike the smoking ban, it doesn't have anythink like sufficient public support So my advice to smokers is to stop acting like a junkie tied to the bed by their parents and come join us for a pint Slainte

As a 'Pool fan Keef your Celtic awareness should be better But the wink at the end stopped me from "pointing out the error of your ways" Mores the pity... ;-)

Well hello Jamie Nice to see you post on here and thanks for the update. I'll certainly be there on Friday (I think the comments about location ie Camberwell v East Dulwich should be taken with a pinch of salt. People like a good debating point. I think the Sainsbos is in Camberwell as well but most people accept is as East Dulwich)