Parkdrive

Interesting that United think failure to qualify for CL won't financially harm them and that RD used Monaco as an example. Completely diffent situations, and no matter what you might think, not dining at Europes top footballing table will hurt them, both financially and will dent their reputation. And as for it being cheaper to hang on to shrek as it would cost more to replace him, United will be shelling out the best part in ?80 odd million, so RD, you do the maths. I see that wonderful chap Van Pursestrings is being courted by Juve, so glad we got rid of him now. 8 odd seasons we put up with his almost permanent injury and his tantrums. Glad to see after the deafeat in midweek the tantrums have resurfaced. The little boy inside him is saying it's all the other nasty boys fault for taking his space. As for still attracting top names, Millhaven hit the nail on the head with his comments on the Mata transfer.

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You can make a case for either side of the Rooney > signing and I have sympathy for both sides of that > argument > > By I definitely lean towards the ?they didn?t have > much choice, but it?s going to cost them big > time? > > I don?t believe Rooney will be any better than 1-2 > years at top of his game > Rooney is not the man to consistently lead a team > (he has matured plenty over last 5 years or so, > but not enough to be That Guy) > Have Man Utd got the money? If not, then that?s a > huge drain on cashflow. If yes then many a younger > player (especially targets) will look at that > figure and want parity > > I think it?s all very unfortunate Said it before very desperate. I don't think it's unfortunate, it's a lack of foresight and the willingness to grasp the nettle that is Rooney, he's been indulged far too much by Yanited. Can't see many clubs putting up with that, and was hugely surprised when SAF let shrek take the piss a couple of years back.

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What Ots said. In the final year of his contract, > Rooney would've beeen worth ?20m tops this summer. > Real Madrid offered ?80m for Ronaldo, cash...you > do the maths. And yet the likes of Negredo was available for 20 million if Rooney had gone? Perhaps he didn't believe in the Moyes project, and the way many of the players are performing, neither do they.

I love the reasoning put forward in some quarters for the reason United stumped ?300k a week for shrek. Primarily the argument seems to be its cheaper than finding a comparable player for the same outlay. If that's the case, how come they didn't try to hang on to Ronaldo, possibly the best player in the world? Was he not as valuable to the squad?

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hayes' unstoppable strike ended Fraser Forster's > 1,256-minute run without letting in a league > goal. > > Goal is 44 seconds into video: > > http://sport.stv.tv/football/265464-neil-lennon-sa > ys-referee-ruined-game-as-celtic-go-down-to-aberde > en/ > > If you are not interested in Scottish football, > please don't bother telling me again. Ok I won't

titch juicy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Arsenal will one day have a similar problem when > Wenger leaves, I hope you're taking notes " > > > Arsenal haven't won a trophy other than the > Emirates Cup for 9 years. I don't think the fall > will be that painful. Unlike a team that hasn't won a title since the days of black and white eh titch? Spurs, the comedy gift that keeps on giving.

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Arsenal will one day have a similar problem when > Wenger leaves, I hope you're taking notes " > > oh gawd is this ever true. It's why I have been so > anti all the anti-Wenger sentiment amongst (not a > small) contingent of Arsenal fans > > that said, I expect we will get Pep to replace > him, so I'm not tooooo worried Yeah we're taking notes from how NOT to hand over the reins to a complete numpty

In the still of the night - The Five Satins

Millhaven Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Parkdrive Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > > And RVP on 220k so 520k a week for two players > who > > couldn't muster a shot on target last night, > > bargain. > > Did you see the comments attributed to RvP about > his team mates being in the channels he should be > occupying? Not like Dutch players to lay the blame > for everything at someone else's door. Always someones elses fault with RVP. Probably the little boy inside him is to blame, don't you think?

Millhaven Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Carrick looking good in a very poor team. Not aure > any clubs in the top 5 would swap him for anyone > they already have. > > Cleverly = Jesus wept. > Young = ditto > Welbeck = lol > > Still, Man Utd still have Mr 300k so all is not > lost, eh?! And RVP on 220k so 520k a week for two players who couldn't muster a shot on target last night, bargain.

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Where you are starting from is the key difference > RD. > > Liverpool - desperate to try anything after 20 > years without winning. Choose a manager on the up. > Still haven't won anything but people consider > that "doing very well" because of the starting > point being low. > > Man United - a winning formula, quality manager > with a winning mentality swopped for a relative > novice. Stupid move. A relative novice chosen by SAF lest we forget

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Gavin Rose's pink & blue army. Indeed

BrandNewGuy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Meanwhile, some good news - Dulwich Hamlet's > convincing 4-0 win at Carshalton last night puts > them three points clear at the top of the table. That is good news, always had a soft spot for the Hamlet as my eldest son played for the youth side a few years back.

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > As for paying Rooney ?300k a week, hardly an act > of desperation when it would actually cost the > club more to replace him like for like. Instead > we've got a proven Premier Leagur player, a proven > match winner, a proven trophy winner, and someone > who doesn't throw a mental wobbly when he misses a > penalty. Things will have changed when we go 9 > years without winning nothing, not 9 months... Oh RD how desperate you rags have become. You suddenly become blind to the number of "wobblys" your own dear shrek has thrown in the past when he didn't get his his way and blackmailed his way back into your affections. I remember many of your so called fans burning his shirt when he threw strops in the past, and when you gave him what he wanted you all forgave him en masse. You rags really do have selective memories, and then you have the temerity to round on those that remind you of your selective memory. While we are at it, Yanited "fans" need to be reminded that supporting a club is for life through thick and thin, and not just during the good times, unlike many of the plastics that reside in London, Surrey, Hampshire anywhere in fact bar Manchester. No club has a divine right to win anything, as you lot are no finding out. Like I said before you've fast become like the child whose wealthy parents have become bankrupt but refuses to give up his pony.

Emotion in motion - Ric Ocasek

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mick Mac Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Its was the end as soon as they appointed a > > manager who had never won anything. > > > > Surely a PLC should have had a proper > recruitment > > policy instead of.......lets just ask Alex what > he > > thinks. > > > > > > > > I stand by these thoughts now. It was the biggest > decision they had to make since replacing Busby > and they allowed SAF to choose his own man. > > In terms of whether the name of this thread holds > true long term (and remember I was quoting a MU > fan) it will be a case of not repeating the same > mistake when replacing Moyes, which already seems > inevitable. > > Unfortunately some of the attraction of MU to the > very top managers will already have been watered > down by the drop in form, although some of the > managers whose star is on the rise will probably > see it as a better opportunity now there has been > a bit of a lowering of expectations. Sam Allardyce anyone?

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Losing in Greece. The season is over. Eek. Their season was over months ago

LadyNorwood Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > binary_star Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > binary_star Wrote: > > --------------------------------------- > > It's fine to get annoyed but pretending it's a > > road safety issue is a bit silly. > > > > northlondoner Wrote: > > ------------------------------------------ > > > Well it is a safety issue, no ? Squeezing > thru > > every available space, jetting the wrong way > down > > one way steets etc is dangerous for the rider. > > > > Ah yes I see your point NL, some cyclists look > > like they are a danger to themselves and I'm > sure > > some are - London's streets are full of > reckless > > individuals. However whilst it seems like what > > you're saying should make sense, there are > clear > > recommendations from TfL to open up one-way > > streets to 'through' cyclists: > > > > "Wherever possible, provision should be made to > > permit cyclists to cycle both ways in one-way > > streets." > > > > I have cycled up a few of those streets and it > > didn't feel particularly dangerous tbh. TfL > have > > also considered reviewing other rules such as > > allowing cyclists to make left turns at red > lights > > and rather than trying to prevent cyclists from > > squeezing trough small spaces, they'd like to > make > > those spaces wider so it's not necessary for > them > > to do so. > > > > From Chapter 3 of the London Cycling Design > > Standards > > > I was hit by a courier cyclist who was going the > wrong way down a one-way street - I was thrown > into the middle of a three lane street; by the > time I had been picked up by some helpful > pedestrians the traffic was starting to flow > towards me, luckily I wasn't hit by a car as > well..... The cyclist yelled abuse at me (called > me a c*unt etc) and rode off at speed, still going > the wrong way; I had a cut on my head, my clothes > were torn and bloodied and I had grazes, cuts and > a fracture in my shin - but the cyclist was OK so > that's alright then... It seems there are some on here that adopt a fanatical defence of cyclists and can see no wrong in what they do, and if you try to counter their point of view you get rounded on. I've always said the rules that apply to road users should be adhered to by all including cyclists, but some on here believe they are in some way exempt from the rules that govern the rest of us. The next time I see a lunatic careering down the pavement on cycle I'll do my best to make way for it, as clearly they have the right of way.

Always said Moyes wasn't up to it but neither are many of his players. ?520k a week to RVP and Rooney and not a shot on target, and RVP blazing over the bar with the goal at his mercy and then blamimg his team mates during the interview after the game. May he have many years at United. And doubtless come summer, Rooney will be wanting away again.

maxxi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mick Mac Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Nothing worse than fair weather rugby fans. > > Ohhh I dunno - poor losers runs it pretty close > B) Indeed

Second time around - Shalamar

So according to RD Ozil is unproven,so please explain his assist stats and passing accuracy to me? The East Dulwich Forum is a constant source of amusement to me. Still I see Yanited are so desperate they've given the granny shagger an obscene 300k a week. Is he world class? Meh. Always goes missing for England, and will doubtless throw a strop again when things aren't going his way. HoW things have changed for the rags.

Good win for England, great game to watch. Always good to beat the Irish.

Which way is up - Stargard

titch juicy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Parkdrive Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > titch juicy Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Parkdrive Wrote: > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- > > > > So Carlo Ancelloti saying it was a mistake > to > > > sell > > > > Ozil was just a smoke screen? Spurs fans > eh? > > > > > > eh? i think you might have missed the point > of > > the > > > tweet > > > > Think so? I don't > > So, how does Ancelotti not wanting to get rid of > Ozil, have any relevance to a Spurs fan > sarcastically saying that they thought RM had > fooled us by flogging one of their best players to > our main rivals, making us think that our special > relationship was a rather one way affair, then > realising that actualy they sold them a dud? A dud? Did you watch Spurs play last night against the mighty Dinipro? A team full of duds. Soldado one of your stellar summer signings missing spectactulary from 4 yards, 8 yards closer than Ozils pen, and failing to score, yet again. I think you should look closer to home find duds. Like I said before Spurs fans eh? A gift that never stops giving.