Parkdrive

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Parkdrive > > It'd be a brave fan who got cocky at this point of > the season You mean like Yanited and CSKA Fulhan fans, maybe. But we ARE top of the league currently, and do have a paper thin squad with loads of injuries and "unproven" players in the Prem. What a shit start to the season, a real crisis at the Arsenal.

Top of the league we're having a laugh, paper thin squad, we're having a laugh.

I've been saying this for years. It's about time the British media, football authorities, FA, and League cottoned on and stopped laying the blame at the door of "Johnny Foreigner", an easy scapegoat, when the problem lays in their own backyard. Patrick Vieira says coaching is the problem for England youngsters Patrick Vieira says England's failures at major tournaments are down to coaching standards rather than foreign talent playing in the Premier League. Football Association chairman Greg Dyke recently stated that the national side need more English players starting regularly in the top flight. But former France midfielder Vieira said: "The problem is deeper than just saying there are too many foreigners. "The methods in England haven't changed as much as the game has changed."

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > gotta love those typos Otta > > RD - no small obstacle is it. Think Wenger will be > keen to show young Jose the old man knows a few > tricks. Suspect he will but out a B++ team rather > than just B team. > > I was travelling back from Borough following the > game on a blog. Arrived at Goose Green just as > penalties were about to start so thought I'd have > a pint and listen to 5live in the EDT (no tvs were > on in there) > > Was a bit like being 10 years old again - I'm sure > I got some funny looks as each pen was taken Is it me or did soppy bollocks Bendtner not look too bad last night, not great, but not bad. Still want him launched out the door for being a prize bell end though.

londoner_77 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Parkdrive Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Why would anyone want to claim they live in > > Peckham when they don't? I went to Peckham > Manor > > school in the late 60's and early 70's, Peckham > > was nasty then and it still is. But then East > > Dulwich was crap then and it ain't much better > > now. > > That's quite a negative post! There are some very > nice bits of Peckham - and East Dulwich is lovely! Negative but true, Peckham was/is nasty and is East Dulwich is far from "lovely". I also owned a shop in Peckham for 7 years which simply reinforced my belief the place was a hole.

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Hope Wenger puts the kids out again and we put CSKA Fulham out

Why would anyone want to claim they live in Peckham when they don't? I went to Peckham Manor school in the late 60's and early 70's, Peckham was nasty then and it still is. But then East Dulwich was crap then and it ain't much better now.

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Parkdrive Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Well we cetainly haven't got an inferiority > complex when it comes to Arsenal...shall we count > the trophies now? > > Is your dad also bigger than my dad?

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Parkdrive Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > Coming from a United fan that's rich. > > Well we cetainly haven't got an inferiority > complex when it comes to Arsenal...shall we count > the trophies now? > > > > And if you read my post properly, hard I know > with the red > > mist in your eyes, but I do mention our > > performance against the orcs. > > And if you read my post properly you'll see that I > said it's odd that Aresnal fans comment on Utd > before commenting on their own team...which is > exactly what you did. > You're not very good at this, are you?... You mean like your team yesterday?

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What is it with Arsenal fans that they have to > comment on a Utd game before their own team? > You really need to work on that inferiority > complex... Coming from a United fan that's rich. And if you read my post properly, hard I know with the red mist in your eyes, but I do mention our performance against the orcs. As for inferior, what I saw yesterday was very inferior by your team. Here's one just for you. What's the difference between Prince Andrew and United? Andrew has never regretted parting with Fergie.

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1 has sympathy 4 United ;) . Good result against the Orcs yesteday, nice to see the "unproven" Ozil hold his own against the agricultural Huth and Shawcross eh RD?

Beat Surrender - The Jam

Oh joy CSKA Fulham and Celtic lose. Love that

El Pibe Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > to be fair I don't think he was being pessimistic > at all, he was just being a bit pedantic. > That he is literally unproven in this league and > it's probably worth reserving judgement for a few > games, and maybe at least one winter. I think it was the usual anti Arsenal thing as I don't recall him ever making such comments in respect of foreign players who've joined other clubs, just saying. And by the way he played in Germany for a few years so the winter thing doesn't wash.

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Parkdrive Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Alan Medic Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Given that was Ozil's first game in the PL, > > what's > > > your point? Every player is 'unproven' in the > > PL > > > before they have played a game if you think > > > football in one league is so different to > that > > in > > > another. > > > > My point? Really, you need to ask? I mention it > > because of the inane comments that some have > made > > on here. He's class and showed why he's one of > the > > top 10 players in the world. Is that a good > enough > > point for you or do need more? > > The fact that he was outstanding in La Liga > says > > it all, the quality of the football is far > better > > than the Prem and he shone over there as he did > > today. Its called consistency Alan. Oh and > class. > > Since when did Sunderland become the benchmark for > the quality of the Premier League? > Last time I looked they were bottom. > If a player hasn't played in a league, then it's > perfectly reasonable to say he's unproven in that > league. Messi is unproven in the PL. Bale is > unproven in La Liga, etc, etc. > Any 'class' and 'consistency' a player has shown > in another league is no guarantee that he will be > successful in the PL, e.g. Veron, Shevchenko, > Robinho etc, etc. > Let's assume your 'fact' that the quality of La > Liga is better than the PL, technically anyway, as > most foreign players admit how much quicker and > physical the PL is compared to foreign leagues. > Will Ozil have come up against clodhoppers like > Huth and Shawcross before? He has to prove himself > against that type of player. Lots of other factors > to consider too, e.g. climate, culture, food, more > vocal fans, a mid-week League Cup away game on a > frozen pitch at Barnsley. > If he isn't a success in the PL, it doesn't mean > that he isn't a great player, just that his game > isn't suited to the PL... RD did you ever mention these factors when the likes of Ronaldo et al came to Prem, or was your opinion coloured by the fact that he was playing for united? I don't recall you bringing this up when the likes of Oscar, Ramires, Hazard,Aguero,Silva and numerous other johnny foreigners came to the Prem. Or is it just a United anti Arsenal bias coming to the fore. By the way Sunderland has more than its fair share of clod hoppers, and I have to say i don't share your pessimism in respect of the little man. We shall see.

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Given that was Ozil's first game in the PL, what's > your point? Every player is 'unproven' in the PL > before they have played a game if you think > football in one league is so different to that in > another. My point? Really, you need to ask? I mention it because of the inane comments that some have made on here. He's class and showed why he's one of the top 10 players in the world. Is that a good enough point for you or do need more? The fact that he was outstanding in La Liga says it all, the quality of the football is far better than the Prem and he shone over there as he did today. Its called consistency Alan. Oh and class.

Ozil eh, not bad for a player "unproven" in the Premier League. I see the Mancs needed a dodgy decision to reduce the opposition to 10 men. Bet that shocked a lot of people.

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Can you do Chelski afterwards? Abramovich will when he walks away from CSKA Fulham.

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ozil it seems has the best passing success rate in > Europe. What you need from a midfielder. Why did > United not buy him if he was offered to them in > the Summer? Beats me. Because Fergy ain't there anymore.

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Stats can be misleading. You have to factor in the > quality of the players he was surrounded by at > Madrid, and the relatively poorer opposition > (Barca excepted) he played against. > He's a great player but unproven in the > Premiership. I've counted 3 Arsenal players, > including Ozil, who think they will win the > League. He's in for a rude awakening...Row Z at > Stoke springs to mind My my someones touched a nerve. We'll see, Bergkamp, Henry, Pires, and many many more were unproven in the Prem, including Vidic Ronald etc. Are you sure you're not just pissed off cos he was yet another player who didn't join Moyes project?

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Friday Caption Contest... > > http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/13/article- > 2419806-0504C6C900000514-259_634x438.jpg > > Couldn't have put it better myself... If you were talking about Ferdinand I'd agree with you.

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