>>How do their actions constitute selfish, inconsiderate, cynical, anti-social and "wrong" compared to any almost other >>driver??? >you glibly dismiss "car culture" but don't, in any way whatsoever, back up your statement. Tell me, how does the over->>abundance of cars on the suburban street contribute positively to our lives?<< I did not dismiss "car culture" in any general way, but in its specific use in an argument to defend (apparently) the current Foxton's infestation. Foxton's are using these vehicles in a substantially different manner to most residents' use of their cars. And as for the "overabundance of cars on the suburban street" you'd have to ask each owner how his/her car contributed positively to their own lives. Whilst there's obviously a substantial downside to having so many cars in streets that were never designed with car-ownership in mind. let's not also lose sight of the fact that the spread of car ownership to the - ah - less well-heeled was possibly the most liberating phenomenon of the post-war era. Oh and I cherish your posts too :)-D