Yeah, loved kick off, i think NHLPA '93 was the sport sim i spent most time on. The moment they became actual sims as opposed to top down arcade games, they became pointless, and agree, the same very much goes for footie, i find them tedious in the extreme. Speedball, now there's a game they should do in real life. or rollerball of course, loved that film. Thinking about it video games that became films are universally terrible, but that's a film that is really a live action video game!!