*Bob*

I don't mind when people I'm not bovvered about behave like knobs for no real reason but it's disheartening when people I do like do it. So I can't really be arsed. Hopefully the the thread can continue in a useful manner.. presumably so long as nobody who isn't in possession of 100% of the facts and a South African passport dares to offer any words on the matter. Good luck.

arrogant dismissive defensive tick - tick - tick I'll leave you to it on this one.

(Unspecific to the Brendan/Simon thing, but..) One wing of Mrs *Bob*'s family went to SA in the '70s - and are still there today, in greater number. During apartheid, their line was 'you don't understand because you don't live here'. Post-apartheid, their line is 'you don't understand because you don't live here'. The truth was that much of the rest of the family, 'cossetted' or not (Australians, Americans, Brits) understood more than they thought. Possibly more than the SA lot were prepared to admit, either to anyone else - or themselves - back then or now.

bloonoo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > a nightclub/bar with a dancefloor like the pitcher > and piano With an underground tunnel connecting to it - from Foxtons.

I kinda like Widdy in some ways (no.. not those ways) but her God Prog over the weekend was risible. On The Exodus: Archaeologist: We haven't found any evidence whatsoever of 600,000 men (plus assumed women and children) in the area it's supposed to have taken place in. Widdy: Aha.. but just because you haven't found any evidence doesn't mean it didn't happen, did it? Archaeologist: Likewise, we haven't found any evidence that frogs can play the banjo either - Yet. I might have made the last line up.

Roll Deep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Do you wear your socks in bed, *Bob*? Yes. Verucca ones.

Sitting in a restaurant where the tables have been pushed close together. Paying over the odds for the privilege of pretending to moon over one another sickeningly for two hours.. and then going home for a bout of half-hearted intercourse. You're not missing much.

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Pah! This all bollocks. It's been going on for > decades but people still copy stuff and why not. > Do you remember the slogan on inner record > sleeves? "Home taping is killing music." Didn't > stop anyone did it? Oh and by the way - did you > tape the music on your tapes from records? Twas merely a point of law.. I wasnae offering an opinion as to right/wrong / good/bad. However, you can't possibly compare the laborious and time-consuming nature of copying from vinyl to cassette with being able to copy ten thousand tracks with the drag of a mouse, without any degradation in quality?!

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Isn't encoding and copy protection being removed > from digital formats? Apple had it and then > removed it from their iTunes tracks didn't they? I'm not familiar with how the compressed digital formats work (I've never bought one!) - but that does ring a bell. As I say, I think this area will be on the move over the next few years. How copyright law used to be applied was on a commonsense basis (number of people prosecuted for making a mix tape from their vinyl.. zero..? Probably?). Now I think they're struggling for how commonsense stuff like 'people owning more than one computer at a time, changing their computer every few years so not wanting a track to be tied to that machine' can be balanced against the ease with which people can share at the drop of a hat - machine to machine or P2P or whatever. Part of the problem is that the physical item itself is no longer an object of desire, like vinyl was.

I don't know the current technicalities of rights to transfer from the format you bought it in.. I suspect this area will be 'copyright law on the move' over the next decade or so - as encoding and copy-protection becomes built-into digital formats.

The license you own is bound in the physical format you bought it in (vinyl, tape.. now digital too), not in the song itself, in whatever format you like. And bound to that specific item too. So if you lose your Nana Mouskouri tape, you have to buy it all over again.

david_carnell Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If you own the originals you can download the > albums from bit-torrent websites without doing > anything illegal. 'Fraid not, DC. This is copyright infringement = illegal.

Find if hard to believe they were still producing Speccie games as late as 1992! I suppose if I look through the years and lists of games, the point at which I don't recognise any must have been the point when my brother lent me his post office paying-in book - which meant I could get served in the pub (well.. 'a pub' anyway). And thus ended* a happy period of a darkened bedroom, excessive masturbation and computer gaming. *briefly

SimonM Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Agree with him or not, he has principles and > has always stuck rigidly to them. Like A-Widdy

woofmarkthedog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Though I (luckily )did resist throwing my verdant > scrotum under a mower that time Brighton often has this effect on me. Too many skateboards and asymmetrical haircuts.

You have to be careful with woof woof. Makes your cock fall off. Unless you put it up your bum.

woof woof

I have no discernable talent and hardly any ambition, so that's me out. But I'm happy to lend a hand in creating that 'first gig in Camden' feel by standing motionless five feet from you as you play, slowly sipping a pint of beer occasionally shaking my head if your timing goes slightly out.

I haven't. I've been off my drong on Splenket all weekend.

I had some sort-of QuickShot joystick - one that came with three interchangeable 'sticks' - one of which was shaped exactly like the gearstick from the Austin Princess*.

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Try this for some proper old school: > http://www.zxspectrum.net/ 1. KEYBOARD 2. KEMPSTON 3. CURSOR 4. SINCLAIR I'm welling up!

If he's not careful, the angry man in the street is going to get exactly what he deserves out of all this: Esther Rantzen.

It is possible to agree that money should have been repayed; to agree that a few who have totally taken the piss should be charged with criminal offences; to agree that the whole established system (for that is what is was) was a joke and needed to be changed.. and even to enjoy the parading the 'moat-claimers' for the purposes of univeral and public derision (and hope they lose their seats). It is possible to agree without all these things, without adopting the screaming, hyperbolic, and often hypocritical tone as egged-on in vast swathes of column inches by half the UK press - as other actual matters of life and death are swept to the back of the paper in order to make way for the feeding frenzy. Unfortunately, not agreeing to play the game and stamp your feet and beat your chest in the same manner as the rest of the mob seems to unleash a kind of 'with us or against us'.. like suddenly, you're as bad as they are, for even daring to have - dare I say it - a somewhat more realistic and reasoned take on events.

Steve, are you absolutely sure you don't submit your books to an accountant, who then gets away with as much as he possibly can - on your behalf - arguably within the parameters of 'the rules'.. and then signs them off as 'a fair and true account'? If not - I suggest you change your accountant.

The truth is that Sean is afraid of microwaves. Yes - afraid. He doesn't trust any method of cooking unless he can see a clear flame - and only then if the food is suspended over the flame in a giant copper pot, secured on a chain from a high beam.