*Bob*

Watching Five and complaining about the quality is akin to biting into a freshly-laid dog egg - and complaining about the taste.

LadyDeliah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Probably sounds crap to you tv junkies with your > big wall size plasma screens, but I'm not a fan of > room dominating entertainment unless it's live (as > in physically present) or in the cinema. Yes, we too suffered from pre-large-screen angst. It's a common condition - cured by .. a large screen. Now I regret 'the wasted years' before we got one. Just don't stick it over the fireplace, for god's sake

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I still like him with his cliches an all. > Successfull, hardworking, watchable, hearts in the > right place and apparently a genuienely nice bloke > in person......all a bit tall poppy for me..... Yeah I agree.

LadyDeliah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Even put my laptop on the hinged shelf thing that > used to hold my old portable TV in me bedroom when > I'm watching films. Can't imagine buying a TV > again, doesn't seem to be any reason to. > Amanda To get a considerable better film-watching experience than on a tiny laptop screen?

They tick the 'cheap enough to make' and 'get enough viewers' box. That's all there is to it.

Well I guess that's my point. How 'i am now disinterested in his tv programmes' somehow manages to become 'fuck1ing hate'. It's always been the way with Ol, but not with the others. I just find it a bit weird. The current genre of 'me and my mate' cookshows is cack for sure, though I think Slater's is the worst. Massively smug. Shame - Nige is generally quite likeable.

Do you fuck1ng hate him too then, DF? I mean - absolutely fuck1ng HATE HIM?

It's weird how J-Ol inspires such bitterness. He weathered a particularly vile campaign of abuse in his early days - for no particularly deserved reason other than coming across as a bit of a wally - and then becoming successful. I find it hard to forgive his use of adjectives in recipe titling - but the recipes themselves are often very usable.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I hate to do this, but im going to anyway. "Street > food" - we are literally coming full circle > (again). on I remember - it was the thread where you made a complete fool of yourself insisting such 'street food' cost a tenner, despite the average prices of nearly all the stuff in NXR costing about ?4.50. ?4.50 - which, to put things into perspective Lou, is the same you pay to live your Pret dream. There loads of room for 'better' on NXR, but - bottom line - if you arrive there before midday and can't find everything you need for a decent lunch, cooked dinner and piggy dessert all within a hundred yard stroll - then you're just not trying hard enough.

When they go; 'if' they go - then some fruit and veg on a stall on NXC would be welcome. Until that happens.. a small stretch of stalls should avoid duplicating stuff on offer from the shops it sets-up in front of. I admit there's some pointless tat on the road, but there is also a meat van, chocolate fudge cake, a fish van, chocolate fudge cake, chocolate fudge cake - and some places that serve up something decent to grab and eat as you go past. And there's the chocolate fudge cake - which I recommend.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > North Cross Rd. is not a market.. It does not sell > anything.. > We have some of the lowest standards in food... > DulwichFox. You're right - fruit and veg is EXACTLY what's missing from NXR Ooh, hang on

It's just fine until you reach the extended noodling analogue synth solo wigout section (a common JG feature) Just get on with it!

(*hides under white sheet*) "ooooooooooo-OOOOOOoooOOOO------ooooooooooooOOOO..."

I went to Decathlon in Surrey Quays once. As a shopping experience, it's right up there with PC World and Sports Direct.

We briefly toyed with the idea of leaving London - but quickly decided against social suicide. Er.. I mean - 'hope it all works out for you!'

I heard the next Downton Abbey series will be set entirely in New York and renamed Abbey, Downtown. The theme music will be replaced by the Star Spangled banner and the first episode will centre around Lady Mary's efforts to put together a baseball team whilst continually whistlin' Dixie.

Poor Julian. Loathe though he is, I'm sure he will manage to squeeze out another series - I mean 'season' - for another massive sack of cash.

Pretty sure webtrak doesn't cover City (not yet, anyway) - but some other tracking system will no doubt. Flightradar24 should (I think?) and works in near realtime - though you'd need to buy the app to access extra features like flight altitudes, Millets raincoats, packed lunches and living at home with your Mother at the age of 40. Though we're on Westerleys today so no City incomings. Personally - on days when I do feel they're intrusive - I find the Heathrow ones more annoying than the City ones (lower, steeper glide angle, shorter sound bursts) which I don't hardly mind at all for some reason. And I find it quite easy to forget about all of them for several weeks at a time - until this thread re-appears.

Well done Ian - thanks for that. Now we have some real data - we can make a comparison. So let's compare Ian's average morning 4.30 - 5.30 on Westerley operations in 2008 - to the Friday just gone in 2014, same time, Westerley operations again. 2008 4:30 4500 Avondale Rise 270 4:33 4400 Avondale 270 4:36 4400 Avondale 270 4:39 4300 Avondale 270 4:42 4200 Court Lane 285 4:51 4100 Burbage Rd 295 4:57 3700 Avondale Rise almost due west 5:00 3200 Jn, LL + ED Grove ~ 275 5:03 3800 Avondale 270 5:05 4500 Avondale 270 5:09 4500 Avondale 270 5:13 4000 Avondale 270 5:16 3900 Avondale 270 5:19 4500 Avondale 270 5:22 4300 Avondale 270 5:30 4400 Just s of Avondale ~ 270 2014 4.30 4400 Avondale 4.34 4500 Avondale 4.39 4500 Avondale 4.48 4500 Avondale 4.53 4500 Avondale 5.02 4200 Ondine 5.06 4100 Avondale 5.10 4100 Avondale 5.13 4200 Avondale 5.16 3000 Grove Park 5.19 4100 Avondale 5.23 3900 Avondale 5.25 4400 Avondale 5.28 4400 Avondale Conclusion: flight landing patterns between 4.30 and 5.30am are have remained largely unchanged (both in terms of how many planes pass over and how low they fly) - over the last five years. Now we just need the data for the other 23 hours of the day.. aren't 'the facts' fun?!

fazer71 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Bob that's an image of the flights from 2012 when > they began the narrowing and move south of the > flights into Heathrow. > Try and find one from 2011 .... I'd be surprised > if you can. Sure - here's the one from 2011 Do you have any data to support the claim of a material change in landing patterns over the last 18 months?

Bunch o' saps

I don't know of any in particular unfortunately, but if you can find one themed around either benefit scroungers, immigration - or preferably both - it'll be more likely to get on-air. Good luck.

It's his style I admire, not necessarily the music

Around the time of the Peel thing homosexuality was illegal - punishable with imprisonment. Not that far back from there, historically speaking, the age of consent was raised - to 13. Attitudes to sex and 'sexual crimes' change.

I don't really go in for saints, but I can totally admire somebody - especially somebody working in the combined shpere of media and music who spends their whole life plugging away championing things they like - because they like them and for no other reason. No sellout, no corporate cocksucking. It's unusual - less so now of perhaps, but certainly then. Yes, there was luck involved and he was lucky the able to do that, but you do make a fair bit of your own luck too. As for the schoolgirlery.. I think this one's been done on the Savile thread, but not being able to distinguish degrees of culpability or allowances for things actually not being the same fifty years ago as they are now is baffling to me. At least three girls at my school were shagging men in their mid-twenties when I was that age without anyone batting much of an eyelid. Should we root them out and string them up, or are they just not famous enough?