*Bob*

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?9,1279394

I have an excellent app which turns hundreds of pounds of phone - into an inaccurate spirit level. The future is here - one must only reach out and grasp it.

Next week the tables are turned though. Having tried his hand at the top of huge crane moving freight containers at London Gateway, Evan visits a business in Doncaster to try his hand at colouring-in greetings cards.

Yes, I caught that. It was basically a giant, London-shaped middle finger aimed north, wasn't it? I enjoyed it enormously.

Let me be the first to speak. I have the conch. Yes - I WAS rammed off the pavement. By a fellow from the 'lower orders', if you please. Knocked me clear into the gutter he did, sending my air-freighted asparagus flying and lightly soiling my copy of The Guardian. I'd know him again in an instant, officer; roll-up (without a filter), cor blimey trousers, coal-stained eyebrows..

Yes come on everyone, who's been rammed off the pavement by a working class person? Put your hands up, don't be shy. Let's get some perspective on this. Ladies & Gentlemen - put your hands together if you please. Let's hear it for The East Dulwich Forum: now it its seventh utterly silly year.

Fair play - Louisa's right. You only have to check the last seven years of posting history to see that she doesn't just concentrate on Yummies blocking pavements, Yummies filling cafes, Yummies stealing flowers, Yummies poor manners, Yummies driving cars, Yummies eating food, Yummies drawing breath, Yummies looking at me in a funny way. No sirree - there's a whole load of other stuff there too. Somewhere..

*slow hand clap*

(Posted by Louisa 26 November, 2013 16:05) Best hot pizza locally - without question, Go Go's East Dulwich Grove. Plus you can get coleslaw and mix match the base sauce, unlike the poncey allegedly authentic Italian chain eateries who charge the earth of basically cheese on toast. I quite like the cheese and baked bean pizza in Iceland too. Let the insults come my way Louisa. (From the Franco Manca website) The pizza is made from slow-rising sourdough (minimum 20 hours) and is baked in a wood burning 'Tufae' brick oven made on site by specialised artisans from Naples. This oven produces a heat of about 500c (930f). The slow levitation and blast-cooking process lock in the flour's natural aroma and moisture giving a soft, easily digestible crust. As a result, the edge (cornicione) is excellent and shouldn't be discarded.

A pun for Putin perhaps.

fabfor Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > BTW, Hacan stats for last summer show that there > were more complaints from Brockley than from all > other areas combined! > Strange. I wonder why that is The 'early morning respite trial' which ran back then temporarily moved air traffic from its traditional path - to a new one which passed over Brockley.

.. 'along the terrace'?! Lordy - how loud will it be?!

No difference there unfortunately.. as RichardB says - it's really about density / mass. You've still got the whole single glazed window letting sound in / out You could use or construct something to plug the window with when you need to. Depending on how big the window is, what you can afford, how pretty it would need to be, how easy it is to use - and whether or not you can be arsed!

Perhaps the OP should change the title of the thread to: "Aircraft noise - have your say (but only if you agree)" ? ? Incidentally this thread - like so many others - would have dropped off the radar (boom boom) with a measly few hundred views.. without the help of some dissenting voices spicing things up. So assuming your aim is as wide an audience as possible (perhaps even reach the holy grail of, ooh I dunno - 150 signatures?) I'd be thankful for them.

No worries RRR - Works both ways.

I use Brixton at the moment too - but it would make a welcome change to be able to stand outside a cinema and talk with your fellow viewers for more than thirty seconds - without being hassled for 50p.

I know, I'm so naive. It's this old-fashioned supply/demand thing I heard about once.

How so? If the shops become empty, the rents will go back down.

Are Picturehouse still also pursuing the site in West Norwood? "There can be only one.."

Well said, Fazer. There's nothing as persuasive as the sight of an adult having a tantrum like a big baby. No wonder the petition has now 'rocketed up' to 104 signatures. With you on-side, Heathrow will surely be closed down within the year.

12/13 x zero still equals zero. Right, Foxy? Happy days.

Totes agrees, KK. Ultimately if they all have customers who are fed and happy for what they think is a fair price then whatevs, eh? I don't see either SE22 or SE15 going down en masse with food poisoning. The hygiene rating thing is largely boxticking cobblers anyway. After all - you don't get downgraded for putting stuff past its best out for sale.

I use the eyes & nose rating system. Moxons = fresh as a daisy Sopers = slightly fishy Rye Lane = pretty fishy You pays yer money / takes yer choice.

Going round in circles here (like the aircraft) - but the petition is indeed absolutely pointless (and I'd suggest that 8000 thread views but less than 100 signatures collected in nearly a year tells you most people will tend to agree.) It asks for a change to what has been the norm for (as discussed) many, many years. Decades. Heathrow is doing everything it can to get MORE planes in between 4.30 to 6am. The chances of Heathrow agreeing to go the other way and cull the existing early arrival slots it has - are absolutely nil. Wait for when the new trial begins with more early arrivals, then register your complaints and start your petitions - if the increase bothers you. Don't waste time pissing in the prevailing westerley wind.

Article is a little confused: there aren't any stacks over West London (??) - they're further out than that. But anyway - it's certainly (another) effort by Heathrow to try and alleviate a continual headache (for them): loads of aircraft having to wait until 6am and then a mad scramble to land. No real benefit to runway alteration for us, no - aircraft set to land on the northern runway can come from either the north or south stacks I think. (Unless the proposal also means stacks will alternate between north and south depending on runway in use - but I don't see how that can be likely or even possible). Ultimately you have to pick your battles. Demands for changes to the longstanding status quo won't get anywhere. Complaints against changes to it stand a chance (see previous abandoned trial).