JohnL

European Research Group have a logo too as do the young conservatives . So do https://www.trg.org.uk/ who have been around for years and which Boris claims to support

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is this an apt time to throw in some > homoerotica?... > > https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archiv > e/01728/1960-spartacus-col_1728578i.jpg That's a huge sponge

I noticed on my Sky email they've added something called Sky Broadband Boost - which seems to give you better monitoring and service - that means less service for those that don't have it in my loose liberal mind :)

Ha Thanks - I'm still down on phone but no dial tone at all now rather than crackling - internet coming and going at half bandwidth when it feels like. Doubt it's linked to the cable cut in Kingston. Ever ready Sky took the opportunity to sell me fiber :)

not so much lounge thread as toilet :)

Started with Virgin Media in south west London after a contractor cut a cable but has snowballed apparently and effecting other service providers. I've no phone and internet is on/off and I'm Sky not VM. Am I alone or anybody else with issues ? https://www.dailystar.co.uk/tech/news/virgin-media-down-update-broadband-21139436

New law meaning those implementing disruption by a foreign power can be jailed incoming. Attempt to arrest remainers as being agents of the EU or genuine attempt to get Russian agents ?

cella Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The idea of "removing" or "defeating" a grass > roots organisation, apart from some ultra right > wing, offensive ones, smacks of dictatorship and > intolerance surely. There are many good things > that have come from Momentum and a new Leader has > to find a way of blending the different views > within the party without allowing one side to > dominate. Like I said previously, no mean feat. There is an argument that MP's should elect their leader in the house they are in as used to happen (won't happen now without major change though). We're moving towards a Presidential system (I heard the line on the BBC "Boris's motorcade was booed" and then the party members get to vote for the presidential candidate whilst the house and senate are voted for by members of each house.

Keir Starmer still the man to beat in this contest says Peston. https://www.itv.com/news/2019-12-17/why-keir-starmer-is-the-labour-leadership-candidate-to-beat-writes-robert-peston/

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JohnL Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > It's looking more and more like Long Bailey - > just > > can't see her winning, she's not really > > inspiring. > > > > Maybe she'll surprise me or grow into the role > if > > she gets it. > > This is all reminding me of when Alex Ferguson > retired, RLB is a Moyes hierarchical continuity > replacement, and I only know too well how that > ended. We're on replacement No. 4 at the time of > writing... Well at least Bailey hasn't managed Cardiff :)

keano77 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Worth a fiver on Yvette Cooper? She's very forensic and could take someone apart on her day. But wrong faction unless something happens with the membership.

It's looking more and more like Long Bailey - just can't see her winning, she's not really inspiring. Maybe she'll surprise me or grow into the role if she gets it.

Blah Blah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Neither main party is ever history DF. Politics is > swings and roundabouts as you well know. And we > have an electoral system that does not > proportionately reflect how people vote either. > Our Governments are consistently made from parties > that got less than half the votes cast. Labour > will come back eventually. Just remember the leadership era of IDS (the quiet man) and Michael Howard.

BBC News just now - So Mr Damian Green what can the one nation Tory party do for the people of the north. Green: ... Educate them ...

Captain Marvel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quite how these discredited old dinosaurs think > they have the right to impose the next leader from > beyond the grave beggars belief. It's yet more > hubris and delusion. > > They don't want power, they just want the party. > They've waited all their lives for that and they > won't go down without it getting bloody I just want someone who can communicate well and provide a decent level of intelligent opposition at the moment. Tories still need to be held to account as part of the democratic process. I'd love the star factor but Labour don't have that. Brexit is settled for a while (trade deal not done yet but it won't be an election issue as it'll be resolved before then)

Sephiroth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I said at the time in 2017 that Corbyn and his > supporters took all the wrong messages from that > result - it was shortly after the referendum and > many remainers were willing to believe he would > fight for remain. By the time he begrudgingly came > up with his "neutral" 2nd ref offer earlier this > year he had aggrivated leavers and remainers > alike > > But more than that, we had an extra 2 years to > assess him - and it was not good. Basically inept > on most matters, his handling of anti-semitism saw > many people simply unable to vote for him > > Basically - he should have gone after 2017 Agreed - he also looked tired recently which didn't help. Seumas Milne and Karie Murphy seemed to be running a lot of the show. I saw Tom Harwood even allege (falsely) Corbyn had suffered a minor stroke (due to some kind of glasses he wore) https://zelo-street.blogspot.com/2019/11/corbyn-health-smear-totally-false.html

It's also illegal to rent out Housing Association owned or part owned (shared ownership) homes. You can lose the tenancy if you do as well as being prosecuted - and that includes your share of the property (possibly ?100,000s) if you have a share.

Sephiroth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Godammit Cat!!! > > But the problems keep mounting for both parties - > As Cat says, unless they change the way the leader > is chosen then I can't see them getting out of > this hole > Entryism is a real problem - Lib Dems on Twitter openly planning a raid on Tory or Labour parties (joining to vote for leader). Doubt they'd have the numbers though :)

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So Corbyn and the Labour Party should have nailed > their colours to their chest and supported Brexit > without a referendum (difficult as they had > already blocked a softish deal), to retain > Workington and West Bromwich whilst confusing > their Metropolitan elite in London, Leeds, > Manchester and Liverpool. > > Discuss....... Seem to be three Labour factions fighting like ferrets in a bag - even though I can't see the point in Leave-Remain for Labour when they're out for 5 years. Corbynite (Long Bailey, Angela Rayner) - some advocating Lavery here too Centre Left "Leave" (Lisa Nandy, Kinnock) Centre Left "Remain" (Keir Starmer, Emily Thornberry) - can add Jess Phillips here too - not sure she fits Menwhile Thornberry going for Caroline Flint "People can slag me off, as long as it's true, I can take it on the chin. But they can't make up s*** about me"

dulwichbloke Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I appreciate you are probably a Momentum activist Unfortunately they probably call him a red tory - some divisions we have

stepdown Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JohnL Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Chancellor Sajid Javid has wrapped the > increased > > investment commitment into a new set of fiscal > > rules, which makes a clear distinction between > > investment and consumption spending. > > I don't see that contradicts anything I said, but > the fiscal rule I referenced is from 1997, it's > not a new idea: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule_(fiscal_ > policy) that's because I was agreeing with you :)

fishbiscuits Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > diversification of the economy, and a transfer of > power/wealth away from London. And we need to yet one of the first bit of news I heard after the election was the below "An unnamed family bought a central London townhouse on Friday for ?65m in the confidence that Boris Johnson had secured a landslide general election victory. The deal is understood to be one of the most expensive ever transacted on the UK residential property market,"

stepdown Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JohnL Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I can't see it happening - I might be wrong and > we > > might about to be going on a spending spree - > but > > taxes then must go up. > > Not when you use the "golden rule" that increased > borrowing is fine for infrastructure. Fair enough - If you can see the FT "Chancellor Sajid Javid has wrapped the increased investment commitment into a new set of fiscal rules, which makes a clear distinction between investment and consumption spending. He has battled Treasury critics who do not share his understanding of the growth enhancing effects of public investment. " and then further down a mention of EU trade "the Johnson government may surprise everyone with its approach to trade. I believe Downing Street will seek an early trade deal with the EU based on ?high alignment? in all goods sectors and most services" https://www.ft.com/content/998e096a-1cf7-11ea-81f0-0c253907d3e0

uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The bribing is true- your friends may not have had > a vulnerable relative in hospital in Bucharest. > And unfortunately the only other Europeans I know > is a Pole who uses women in the UK for his > accommodation, and a Hungarian who along with > other members of his family are fully, illegally, > exploiting social housing in east London. > They would say that - to keep in with you! You know some dodgy people then. What about all those eastern europeans working in bars and cafes across central london. Don't you talk to them when you buy a coffee or a drink.

Captain Marvel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 'Blair increased public sector personnel by three > million' > > You say that like it's a good thing. > > Anyway, it could be argued ad nauseam, I'm just > suggesting that it looks like the intent is there, > and that clearly not everybody sees demons when > they look at the Conservatives. "The new MPs already have an extensive shopping list of demands they promised to voters during the campaign, including rail links to remote ports, new nuclear reactors and train stations." ?As a newly elected member for the north-west of England I am going to be fighting very, very hard to get funding here. We need rail infrastructure, we need road infrastructure,? Andy Carter, the new MP for Warrington South, told the BBC?s Sunday Politics North West show. I can't see it happening - I might be wrong and we might about to be going on a spending spree - but taxes then must go up.