JohnL

Theresa May may need a vote to enable her to delay the vote (depending on Bercow's mood :)). She'll probably lose the vote.

Brexit vote delayed How do I add chicken sounds to this thread ?

Tommy Robinson and the new UKIP are now intertwined Even Paul Nuttalls of ukips has left.

Tommy Robinson-Yaxley-Lennon in London tomorrow with the leave protesters. Sadly I'd be surprised if there wasn't some kind of trouble.

We have a new first minster in Wales (a Corbynista) ... is it a sign "Mark Drakeford is expected to be confirmed as First Minister on Wednesday next week after Mr Jones tenders his resignation to the Queen next Tuesday." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-46471728

JoeLeg Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If you haven?t seen the footage it does sound > pretty fanciful - the idea that someone voted > Leave to help the NHS and lost his marriage > because of the result. Exactly the kind of sob > story that makes the pro-EU position look > callous. > > The bit I find hard to believe is that someone > like a consuslrant genuinely thought the NHS would > see more money and wouldn?t be sold down the river > to American private healthcare. I hadn't seen it - now I have and I still find it difficult. Never mind why Campbell and Mogg were in a cafe together in the first place (but if it was a news interview that explains that)

Not even sure I believe some of this from @campbellclaret :) "One of those memorable moments in life. In a cafe with @Jacob_Rees_Mogg An NHS consultant comes over, tells us the story of how his German wife, a Doctor, left him because he voted Leave (which he did because he thought it would mean more money for the NHS). Heartrendingly sad"

"Leadsom, the leader of the House, said any MP who had ambitions of being in government at some point in the future would ?live to regret? the contempt vote that forced the government to publish its full Brexit legal advice." The government still haven't got the message :)

mayo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just queued at post office for 40 mins to be told > that it is now 48 hours between a missed delivery > and being able to collect at PO rather than 24 > hours as stated on the card so my item wasn?t > there. What a wind up. I suggested they alter the > cards accordingly or at least have a sign up at > the PO to save people queueing unnecessarily but > don?t hold out much hope that they will do either. > So please bear this in mind when collecting! They need someone to check the queue with the parcel list (triage type thing) if the queues are going to remain this long.

I signed up to "Patient Access" but haven't confirmed it (with my GP) yet. Loads of emails :)

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yep, DAG always states what has to happen legally > as things currently stand, obviously things can > change e.g. EU approves an extension of time to > A50 for passing of such an Act. > > On John's subject of amendments, looks like > Dominic Grieve has out-trumped them all with > his... and looks like it could be voted on today - which just adds to my confusion :)

Another amendment in similar to Hilary Benn but supported by some of Theresa May's backers and the Nick Boles faction (Norway+). Again about parliament instructing Theresa May.

Pause and re-examine I'd say as something hasn't worked - is it the system or has the government used the introduction of a new system to claw back money.

So whats the current likely scenarios if Theresa May loses her vote May deal fails - Hilary Benn has an amendment to ensure no deal is blocked - might pass might fail. May has 21 days to re-submit something - I hear she may even submit the same thing (after a market/financial crash) Corbyn will submit his no confidence motion (expected to fail but DUP are unpredictable) Labour move to support a peoples vote (but there isn't time before end of march) ..

I've got a headache as a non lawyer - seems like Catch 22 - and even more so if for some reason (a second vote) A50 got revoked. :)

Shaggy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Miller's case was entirely predicated upon Article > 50 being irreversible. If Article 50 is > irreversible, triggering it destroys laws passed > by the UK Parliament such as those governing UK > elections to the European Parliament. The PM > cannot make laws and and cannot destroy laws. > Therefore the PM cannot trigger A50 without > Parliament's consent. That was Gina Miller's case, > simply put. > > The government's argument was that the PM makes > treaties, not Parliament. So the PM can trigger > A50 as part of the powers the PM has usurped from > the monarchy. > > At the end of the first day of the hearing, the > judge stated Miller's case hung on the > reversibility of A50. The judge requested to hear > submissions on that point and suggested that > Luxembourg might end up being the final arbiter. > > The government asked to take instructions > overnight. On the next day of the hearing, the > government stated that it would not make > submissions, and the court should proceed assuming > A50 can't be reversed. > > Now we know that, had the Government addressed the > point about reversibility, this case would have > been heard in Luxembourg much earlier as part of > the Miller case, and the outcome may have been > different. The independent article distinguishes won't and can't We still assume the government won't revoke article 50. ?To reiterate, for the avoidance of any doubt, the Supreme Court proceeded in the Miller case on the basis that Article 50 would not be revoked but did not rule on the legal position regarding its revocability."

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Shaggy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > Of course, if the UK government had accepted > this > > obvious conclusion in the first place, Gina > Miller > > would have lost her case. > > Why do you say that? Her case was to establish > the principle that the UK government could not > implement Article 50 without final approval from > the UK parliament; this ruling states that the UK > government may abandon Article 50 without approval > from the EU parliament. Two entirely different > cases, one related to internal UK procedures and > one to international EU law. Looks like this (retracted) comment by a Lord last November https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-minister-lord-callanan-apology-article-50-irreversible-supreme-court-ruling-david-davis-uk-a8065591.html

Sky just said it looks like the EU court advocate general agrees that Article 50 can be withdrawn unilaterally. A hint towards how the court will rule.

se22cat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You can mod the hell out of win10, imho it's > easily the best and most efficient version since > 2000, seriously if you have any complaints over > the UI is down to inaction on your part am afraid. > Do your daily backup, ensure your automated cloud > backup has run, make a restore point and get > modding! > > Of course you can and really should also look into > dual booting with another OS, such as Linux, and > start learning your way around the terminal. Hell, > you can even run Bash in Win10 natively now so > there's no excuse. Yeah - maybe time I got an interest back in operating systems - it's been a while. Edit: or maybe I should go the whole hog and go Apple LOL (Joking - not starting that)

Hmm something was done in the summer https://consultations.southwark.gov.uk/environment-leisure/lost-peck/

Maybe it needed cleaning regularly and that's stopped - I remember a thread from some time back.

Still hate windows 10 even tough I try. they're trying to hide the control panel :)

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Something to take you away from Brexit, although > perhaps with the economic decline this may well be > related. > > A place near us has been empty for years. Signs > of renovation but never finished. Never any signs > of occupation. Fiscal measures such as increased > Council Tax for empty properties don't seem to > have any effect. Hardly sitting on a goldmine > with prices set to plummet and not the best option > to launder money. > > Ideal squat if anyone needs some rent-free > accommodation, plenty of space for artistic > pursuits, anarchic activities and generally > talking us back to the time of Thatcher. > > Ad will be placed shortly on this web site. > > Boooooh > > https://www.gov.uk/squatting-law Guardians ?

Just me and my shadow https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/editorials/theresa-may-g20-summit-erdogan-donald-trump-mohammed-bin-salman-brexit-latest-a8661041.html

Just get in the camera line a la Steve Bray repeatedly. Try a "Stop Brexit, It's not a done deal" They'll leave (I mean depart)