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I never eat in the Rye, maybe I'm seen as a leper :0 They used to have Saturday night live bands - but not since the summer holidays. malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Herne, Clock House and Rye Hotel are all > wonk. > > The FHT, aka Rose, aka The Royal Oak, make some > attempt to be a real pub, with locals, a pub quiz > that is not a clone of all the other ones doing > the rounds and some live music. > > True the beer is a disaster but then again if > there are only a few of us who drink it. And lots > of things they do don't seem to work. > > But it is not the Herne, Clock House or Rye, so > you can go in and sit down and have a drink > without feeling a lepper because you are not > eating.

That's a lot of bandwidth to use :) True speed would also include the latency of the network. I think Virgin and Fibre networks come good here too. Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I just did a test of my speed with Virgin and got > 47mbps. When I see some of you with 13 and 10 I > think that must be really slow. Makes me wonder if > I'm overrating my speed in that maybe I could be > just as happy with a slower speed and better off > paying less with Sky. > > They phoned me the other day as I was a TV > customer, but changed to Virgin as they offered an > increased broadband speed if you took their tele > too. When I said I wouldn't mind at all changing > back to Sky tele if only they sorted out their > broadband, I was surprised that the response I got > was not one of defence of their product but like > an understanding that they couldn't compete.

Bit of a protest on Holborn today Some activists chained to a doorway. Police look confused. office workers milling around.

About a week ago I had an outage - from peckham rye They took an hour or so to fix. So something changed.

you don't want wasp nests where children go either.

In the age before there was internet for all there used to be maps of where you could pick up a free signal - and they were in the strangest places. Also a few years ago WEP especially was easily hacked (bootable hack CDs were common) - So I wouldn't trust that - but a few years later (i.e. now) I'd think WPA2 is cracked. You can tie down MAC addresses. Landy10 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I've actually seen him there a couple of times too > and thought exactly the same thing - that he's > stumbled across an open Internet connection. It is > a really weird place to hang out with a computer!

It's been like a party (on Saturday Evening) for a number of weeks now. Hot weather ? Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Doesn't sound like an Eid party to me. > > Most of my Moslem (of Moslem cultural backgrounds) > friends drink (though, mainly, not to excess) - as > a militant atheist of a Christian cultural > background, I celebrate Christmas, many > non-Moslems celebrate other cultural festivals, > such as Eid or Divali, with their friends who do > have these festivals in their cultural > background. > > If Christian cultural festivals were only to be > celebrated by fully practicing Christians, shops > in the UK would all be bust by now (OK huge > generalisation, but most retailers make their > profits in November-December) and chocolate sales > (Easter) would plummet. > > So drinking at an Eid party? - perfectly possible.

I walk past sometimes - and there are a lot of people there. Wondered why. Barbecue going on on top of one of the first floor roofs - fire hazard ? Wasn't scared though and didn't feel anyone wanted to intimidate.

When I was young my mothers cat used to swat them and eat them if he could. She tried to get them out before he did.

There's an implication they'll serve a beer or a coffee with your haircut Isn't worth me getting my no2 all over there though. The description of Peckham Rye comes from 2014 however and I love it "infamous for .. diversity, people, art galleries, cool clubs and small coffee shops of Peckham Rye" Gentrification is here. Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Girls cut and finish ?53. > > > > Seems they don't cater for women or > apostrophes. > > > Maybe the apostrophe is not appropriate PGC, in a > Sweeney Todd sort of way.

It's already the new Dalston apparently - from a few magazines. I feel terribly left out of all the fun - maybe I should try Franks and the Bussey building cafe. Canavans still rather scares me :) Girl82 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I agree M&S is expensive, but I've done a few > shops at Waitrose recently and have been surprised > how many items are cheaper than the Co-op and even > Tesco. Their 500g minced beef costs around ?2.80, > while Co-op's is ?4! So scratch M&S - maybe what > Rye Lane needs is a Waitrose! > > Also, do people really think there will ever be > hipster hangouts actually on Rye Lane? I just > can't see it happening, the street just seems too > far gone :( I can't wait til plans are approved > and work begins on that grotty station forecourt. > > MrBen Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > When I said it will happen. I meant Rye Lane > will > > eventually start to get some new independents > and > > the odd hipster hang out. They're only 50 yards > > from the front line at the moment anyway... > > > > I think you're safe KK, M&S execs would never > > open there. Between the traditional African > dress > > and skinny jeans brigade I can't see any of > them > > buying threads in there. Ditto food given the > > price of it is beyond many.

Great - only just noticed the cycle hub too. :) Help-Ma-Boab Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Going to be a new independant coffee shop opening > beside the Station (next door to new cycle hub) > opposite the Jerk Chicken place. Aked this morning > if it was going to be a bar to be greeted with, > "Naw you'll no get a wee dram in here laddie!" in > a very poor Scottish impersonation.

Agreed - and I still believe seperation of cars etc. and cycles is the best (and most expensive) solution i.e. dedicated cycleways. That would get me on my bike. As a driver I am extremely careful around cyclists. jimbo1964 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A cycle path alongside the pavement from East > Dulwich Road to Barry Road would be great. > Speaking as someone who's been under a bus it's > actually very scary when a bus looms up behind you > along that stretch.

M&S doesn't mean much to me - but getting some more coffee shops (we've got Ozzies, the cafe in Peckham Rye) does. They don't have to be Starbucks/Nero/Costa - would be lovely if they were local versions of the Guardian :) They can replace the multitude of bookies (Maybe I should have a coffee in there) Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Peckahm does NOT need M&S and Starbucks! There's > lots of positive things happening at the moment, > but turning it into a mini Bromley isn't going to > help...

I look at the 1880 picture and would use the arches and what in that pic is the walkways. edhistory Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The problem with the architects' design(s) is that > the people who have signed up to the Peckham > Gateway expect to get something similar. > > As far as I know this is Mr O'Looney's preferred > design at August 2013. > > I will only allude to the impossible c9am > mid-winter shadows and the interesting scaling of > the human miniatures. > > I have tried to visualise how much of the station > frontage would be visible from Rye Lane street > level halfway between to two proposed shopping > arcades. > > I think I have got the proposed sight lines near > enough correct. > > It would be helpful if one of the architect > members of EDF could do it in proper software. > > John K

Ironically I guess if M&S food, Starbucks etc. opened in Rye Lane they'd probably be packed out, unlike Curry's and WHSmith who struggled. But still slightly to early in the process although I reckon a chain coffee shop (I know that's not popular with some) within the year - maybe on the south end. Girl82 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks LondonMix. I really think Rye Lane would be > a much better place for M&S personally! But I > guess hell will freeze over before M&S would come > to Rye Lane. Does anyone think there is any chance > of that at all? > > LondonMix Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > They are appealing that decision and its going > to > > a formal hearing so they are fighting quite > > tenaciously for the Lordship Lane location > still. > > > > Girl82 Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > It would be amazing if M&S were to come back > to > > > Rye Lane. They didn't manage to get their > > planning > > > application through on Lordship Lane, so > maybe > > > they should try Rye Lane instead! I can but > > > dream... > > > > > > > > >

Lots of people in London do not use cars much (shopping only) - so they would be parked 99% of the time I have a designated spot - but if you don't it'll be stuck somewhere for a week if it was used like mine. herne hilly Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They are also around the Herne hill area but they > seem to be considerately parked so no real > issues. > Any car could park and be left if its not permit > /residents road. I have had a car parked in front > of my house thats not moved for weeks - so not > much that can be done about that either. The > perils of living without a drive or in a CPZ.

I'd say there are individual signs of gentrification - but you need a number of individual signs before a process can be said to be present. I still seem to be the only person who wants more coffee shops :) LondonLogCo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is returning houses to their original condition & > opening an independent shop/bussiness considered > as "Gentrification" > > How odd.

the rain that retained the Ashes has arrived here. Horrible weather.

Agree - I am a 'do' type person rather than a 'think' type. But if nothing happens the chance of nothing further happens grows - the idea of 'change happening' that is in peoples minds goes away. spider69 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If one looks at the planning application shown on > Eileens attachment. http://www.peckhamvision.org > looking to save a bleak concrete shopping arcade > will destroy the whole plan to open the area up. > All the front and sides should come done to > produce a open and airy feel. > > Suspect this possible plan will take far longer to > get agreed if at all. > > Shame

That's how I notice it - communities that like to socialise separately for cultural reasons probably Walking from Rye Lane along choumert road - something is happening there weekends, anyone know Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > edhistory Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > Huh? I was talking about an event at the > Bussey > > Building, not Rye Lane. > > > > Since you posted a couple of people broadened > the > > discussion. > > > > I have difficulty recognising Louisa's history > of > > Peckham. It's not the Peckham I knew, it's not > the > > Peckham of reminiscences published in the > Peckham > > Society News, it's not the Peckham of the > history > > books. It's almost as if Lousia did shopping > along > > Rye Lane and never ventured into the side > streets. > > > > > > John K > > What Peckham do you recall then which is so > different? As has been discussed, people in London > often live in the same place but are basically in > a parallel universe. We all live different lives > depending on any number of factors. The Peckham I > remember as a child was largely white and working > class. There were pockets of wealth along grove > park towards Camberwell and out towards Dulwich > proper, but overall it was a largely poor area. It > took the main shopping street a long time to catch > up with demographic change. The area still had an > M&S and Sainsburys until the late 80s, and from a > socio-economic point of view they probably should > have closed down 20 years earlier. The departure > of major department stores on Rye Lane from a > retail point of view didnt always match the > fortunes of the surrounding streets and areas, and > the emergence of ED as a gentrified neighbour is a > good example of this. > > Louisa.

That's expensive - but maybe safer than fly spray. Andybol Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I know this will sound bizarre but it worked for > me the other day. > > Stick some listerine in a spray bottle and spray > the flies. It kills em quite quickly. We also > sprayed our windo frames and door frames and not > one fly has come back > > Really weird I know but works.

A very small child might work.. ....or is that rather Victorian.

She's done loads of unpaid work and deserves recognition as a working peer (it's like a job title). Obviously has the motivation

I've been here 7 years and like some things - others (the hair for instance) I hate. My shared ownership flat stayed in negative equity for 6 years odd just out now - and that's including payments. Just feel a lot of people in London won't be that patient. jimmyraj Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JohnL Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > You do get the feeling - 10 years and nothing > will > > change the way things are moving. > > > > More young professionals with no links to the > area > > moving in and they really won't care > > about razing the whole place - so if PV want to > do > > it properly - I'd advice now. > > I don't think you should be so hasty to tar all > newcomers with the same brush JohnL. So far as > your loose definition goes, I might class as a > 'newcomer' - I moved to the area four years ago, > and am probably a young (ish) professional. I've > made it my home and want to stay here for quite a > few years to come. I don't have links to the > area, no, but does that make a huge difference? I > care about what it is like now; and what it is > like in the future - as do most of my neighbours > from what I can tell. I don't want to make > Peckham something it isn't but I welcome the > efforts that are going into making it a more > welcoming central hub for all of the community