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The catchment is likely to be much larger than half a mile. The current Charter School's catchment is typically 1 mile and this school will be significantly larger. Either way, most pupils should be able to commute via public transport but suggesting the catchment will be half a mile is a but alarmist / unrealistic. BrandNewGuy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > James Barber Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > They said 90-95% of current Charter pupils > walking > > or public transport. Risk at new school of > 5-10% > > of pupils being driven/collected which would > > September 2016 equate to 6-12 cars am and pm > > expanding to ultimately possible 120 vehicles > when > > school finished. So initially no problem. > Bigger > > risk I suspect is staff driving to/from school. > > Has to be said it appears the nearest private > > schools have much higher proportion of pupils > > being driven to/from schools. So any work to > > reduce the Charter East Dulwich pupils being > > driven needs to be applied in the private > school > > direction as well. > > Well, the private schools' intake is entirely > different from what will be the Charter School's > as they take from far and wide. Apart from pupils > with disability issues, there's no excuse for any > Charter pupil not walking, cycling or hopping on a > bus given that no pupil is likely to live more > than half a mile away. > > As you suggest, it's the staff who will be the > issue when it comes to car use and particularly > parking. > > Incidentally, pdfs of the full information panels > from the consultation are now available here: > http://www.chartereastdulwich.org.uk/_site/data/fi > les/users/2/68364016F0E646B3810036D83AC73AC4.pdf

I feel lucky?perhaps I grew up in a golden age but I think my childhood had pretty decent female characters. My favorite Disney film when I was primary school age was the Little Mermaid and though in some ways it?s a love story, its much more about her love of adventure and exploring. I used to watch Annie a lot as well when I was a kid (both films are why I think I love red-hair though I don?t have it)! Pippy Longstockings had red hair too. It seems like strong / adventurous girls are often depicted with red hair for some reason. Even Belle from Beauty and the Beast was a fairly strong character and more modern films like Finding Nemo with Dori and Wall-E with Eva show funny, feisty, sometimes standoffish and often heroic female characters. I loved Inside Out as well. If you are really worried about it, I think there are good options to at least help balance it out.

Have you visited Harris Peckham? It is closer than many of the schools mentioned, is easy to get into due to its historic bad reputation (which no longer applies) and by many measures gets better academic outcomes for its students than the Charter. It's also co-ed and non-faith and is rated Good by Ofsted....

Maybe some of the other formerly bad schools just need to rebrand. It might help change how people see them

That?s fair enough. I?m not sure how important it is to most parents in Southwark. There are lots of oversubscribed single sex schools. However, I guess if enough parents felt strongly about it, pressure could be brought to make more schools co-ed. That notwithstanding though, I?m not sure I understand all the despair and anger further up thread (not directed at you HP). We are all quite lucky as far as state education goes in this area both at primary and secondary level. hpsaucey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > LondonMix Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Agree bornagain... All of Southwark's schools > are > > good and outstanding from memory. > > > > And for those who are stating they should > rebel-- > > exactly what do you want to happen. For good > > schools to be left empty because certain > parents > > don't like them despite most of them achieving > > better than average national results for their > > pupils. > > Personal opinion, as I realise that they are the > preference of some, but might help if there > weren't so many single sex ones around here ... > > HP

Agree bornagain... All of Southwark's schools are good and outstanding from memory. And for those who are stating they should rebel-- exactly what do you want to happen. For good schools to be left empty because certain parents don't like them despite most of them achieving better than average national results for their pupils.

EXACTLY... I'm always confused what people think the alternative is to putting down 6 choices... katgod Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Better a school you can get to easily/have > visited/know something about but don't like than > one you cannot get to easily that you know nothing > about/have not heard of AND don't like?

Exactly, from where?

Also Fairlawn in in Forest Hill not East Dulwich...

rjr-- I'm aware of Heber's ofsted scores which is why I was asking about Goodrich vis-a-vis Ivydale. Goodrich has a higher value add score (which is a measure of how pupils progress in their education) than Ivydale (which I believe is a very good school). Suggesting as you did twice that ED primaries in general are lacking and naming Goodrich specifically therefore struck me as incorrect. That's why I asked and now I realise you had no real objective basis for saying so. When you said: "On top of that, the aforementioned pet human was naturally shifting our focus (garden now trumps proximity to good coffee, good state schools trump distance from central London)." It made it seem that schools were one of the reasons you were leaving ED. I'm only taking the time to point this out and provide data as statements like yours are how playground rumours about schools spread in the first place and its rather unfair to those working so hard to provide local children with a high quality education.

In what way is Ivydale better than Goodrich? I think ED state schools are very good and certainly no reason to leave the area.

I agree that good design needn?t cost more to build. A good firm may cost marginally more than a less gifted design firm but that is a marginal cost and as has been illustrated, the requirement to alter and change the original design can offset any potential savings on the initial A&E costs.

Yes, they are much cheaper- at least Forest Hill and Honor Oak. The difference is around 20%

I like Honor Oak. I reminds me of ED 10 years ago or so. We considered it when selling our flat and buying our house. Ultimately we decided to get a smaller place in ED rather than a bigger house in Honor Oak but that was down to me. The houses there can be really large (which appeals to my husband), the primary schools are very good and there are lots of nice green spaces including a nature reserve. Transport links a very good too.

As of tomorrow Blue Mountaain on North Cross rd in ED will be open evenings as a Jamaican restaurant!! The occasional Jamaican food they do for lunch is always great so I'm really excited. Apparently hey hope to do take away as well eventually.

I wasn't talking about the Vhinese place but rather the junction with Landctoft. There is a derelict shop there that's been empty for as long as I can remember. A sweets shop or stationary / school supply / uniform shop would probably do well.

Has the demolition begun then? They?ve had signs up for ages saying ?Demolition in Progress? but with very little activity. I hope the opening of the school brings the shop on the corner of Whately Road and Landcroft back into use. With a school directly opposite, some business should be able to have a go. Right now, the combination of the derelict store and the derelict and hideous police station make that intersection the ugliest in all of East Dulwich! I walk by almost everyday and both are such an eyesore.

This is definitely a wind up. There are schools in Peckham that are both good and undersubscribed. Aksim=== Also, the Charter ED is a state school so there is no reason to save up as mentioned in a previous post. Lastly, if you already live in the area, what is the point in asking about secondary schools now unless you are thinking of moving closer to a potential secondary school even though right now your child is only in year 1 and even the school in question hasn?t even opened yet? cn150 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Curmudgeon Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Wait 4 years and look around all the secondary > > options (when your child is year 5) > > > > Charter East Dulwich is not even open yet > > One of my school friends told me to start worrying > now about secondary school admissions as her > friend's daughter, who lives in Peckham, only got > offered a place in Beckenham (?Langley park). So I > thought I'd better start planning and (?saving) > now.

There was an update back in June that the new store wouldn't be open until summer 2016.

Shite(ish). ED station isn't great but Denmark Hill and Peckham Rye aren't far. I can get most places I want to go within 30-40 minutes which for London isn't too bad. Of course, I never go to North West London.... In fact I'm not sure I've ever been to the outer regions of 'The North'. To me its a mystical place like in Games of Thrones :)

Clapham (SW4) has larger houses than most (not all of ED) but it also has load more flats and council housing. That?s fine but its not like the housing stock is all beautiful large Victorian houses. While Clapham is on the northern line, the rush hour commute takes as long to most places as it would from ED, particularly as you have to let a few trains go by before you can get on. I don?t think Clapham High Street has better food than Lordship Lane but it does have more options for going out for a proper night out. SW4 is younger but I?m not sure if that?s actually a good or bad thing. It Is just a fact. I personally prefer East Dulwich?much better green spaces nearby (Dulwich Park, Dulwich Woods, Goose Green, Peckham Rye Park and Common and the Horniman Gardens). Also, being near the Picture Gallery and the natural history museum is really nice. The street art / Dulwich festival also give Dulwich a more interesting vibe in my opinion. Also, if you can afford them or get a scholarship, the proximity of 3 of the best private schools in the country is another plus for Dulwich. Alleyn?s is in SE22 and JAGs is on East Dulwich Road, nearby in the Village.

Land with planning permission for a two bed house is bound to be expensive!

Yes, you are. Subsidence impacts the structural integrity of the entire house. Untreated the entire building will collapse. Your building insurance should cover the costs of repair.

I think its Forest Hill Road rather than Lordship Lane. Even so, its really not grotty at all. Not super fancy but very decent little shopping strip.

I'd focus on the value add score as it shows how well children are progressing relative to the skills they entered the school with. The blunt scores above don't take into account the mixture of abilities of each class which fluctuates between schools and between different year groups within the same school.