Louisa

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Any news on Waitrose? ☺ The Co-op is planning on selling off a large chunk of its supermarket estate within the m25 as part of a money saving and restructuring exercise. All this Iceland/M&S debacle may well be a flash in the pan compared to when and if 56-62 Lordship Lane gets sold on and taken over by Waitrose or similar. Louisa

BBC Three is the most pointless waste of airtime I've ever known. They occasionally do a serious teen/social issues based documentary which is interesting, but most of the time it is simply as you say, re-runs of un-funny animated American comedy shows or a repeat of Eastenders. If it goes online it will surely continue to attract it's target audience anyway. BBC four on the other hand would be a great loss if it ever went the same way. Louisa.

Iceland are on a month by month renewel I would guesstimate. And whatever happens with this application it won't be until the later half of the year before we get a decision let alone any work starting. Louisa.

Let's just hope for all the people on Chesterfield that they at least get a fair crack of the whip with regards the same issues as last time. With no major amendments to the actual application it appears to be a drawn out waiting game. As KK points put, it would certainly have been helpful for a large company like M&S to have a public meeting to at least help remedy some of the concerns local residents have, if Picturehouse can do it not sure why M&S can't, just common courtesy really. Louisa.

As long as no one picks them :-) Louisa.

They're slow, they clog up already busy roads and are deeply annoying to be stuck behind! From a totally non-biased point of view, I think abandoning buses and taking to walking short distances and using bicycles for journeys into and out of the centre, we would have a much easier time of things on London's roads. Buses are great for a view from the top deck but remain incredibly overcrowded even outside of peak times. I'm not saying do away with buses- I'm saying cut down on their use . The 'app' sounds different- thanks for the explanation El Pibe, I don't think I will rush out to buy a tablet just yet but at least I now understand what it's meant for to an extent. I've never actually held one, I may pop to Curry's and have a fondle at the weekend. Louisa.

My teeth are in the jar. With a steradent. Louisa.

I hear people talking about 'apps' all the time and how they can become addictive? Are they like games or something? Or more general purpose? I can totally appreciate how these things would be great to keep kids amused. I just personally think for an adult, you may as well have a laptop- I'm guessing a tablet is more of a fun thing than something to write emails with? Am I wrong? Louisa.

That's the point SJ I've never had to get on a bus I'd rather walk or if it's long distance drive! I think without buses London would be easier to get around for everyone- I mean even without a car you could cycle or walk into central london in around 45minutes or less. Just my personal opinion. Louisa.

I'm confused El Pibe is this a rant thread or are we just meant to mention things we've not really taken up in recent times? If that's the case I can't get into this whole 'tablet' (iPad et al) thing, anyone else not see the point in a tablet? Louisa.

The bus is a relatively recent trend for me. I've never been fascinated by them and I can remember a time when people used to walk everywhere and not get on buses clogging up our busy roads. Louisa.

Buses. Mobile phones. Merkins. Louisa.

Graffiti in Court Lane? How ridiculous. One of the few lovely leafy streets in the area should be cherished and not made to look a filthy subway train in an urban suburb of some random American city. Nothing appears sacred anymore. Bloody arty farty crap. Louisa.

Station front area needs redeveloping and made to look nice. Whoever moves into any retails spaces be they chains or butchers should be made to adhere to keeping the place clean and tidy- no exceptions. Louisa.

Well put aquarius moon. Louisa.

XIX Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Kittysailing save your breath. > > Louisas bizarrely moronic post above (that's > certainly no definition of class I've ever heard > before) reveals the reality that despite her > earlier attempts to make it appear that she was > making a fair and reasonable point about prams > obstructing pavements, this debate isn't really > about prams, it's just her thinly veiled (and now > all out) swipe at posh people. Where have I made an unfair comment about my experience with prams? I pointed out I don't have an issue with people based on class or anything else for that matter and YOU then try to turn it into a class issue. All I said was IN MY EXPERIENCE said antisocial buggy users tend to be of a certain social standing (or appear to be at least). I'm sure there are other ignorant buggy users from other classes too. Go find them for me- I'm open to people sharing their negative buggy experiences. Louisa.

kittysailing Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just a small point in the defence of pavement > hogging buggy pushers - pre children I had the > same attitude -tutting at said pushers. Two kids > and one double buggy later - I am that pavement > hogger. I offer an open invite to all pavement and > bus tutters ; come push my two sizeable offspring, > in their hefty double buggy, complete with it's > undercarriage of shopping - it's f#**ing > backbreaking. I'm not sure it's a question of > entitlement or smugness - more of a practical > issue it's hard work to steer and heave around. > When I am on my own I leap nimbly out of the way > in sympathy if I see a knackered looking pavement > hogging parent. Next time you see a buggy - think > loaded up shopping trolley with wonky wheel and > let it through. Have a fricken heart. It's hard work to do a lot of things in life, unfortunately that's the reality of the world. It's about a sense of entitlement to use the pavement over and above everyone else who is using it (by SOME buggy users). You (pram users) have a pram- you chose to take it on the pavements- be considerate to other footpath users. The same applies to cyclists and other pedestrians too. We are all stakeholders in the footpath outside our homes. As for your comment about eating chicken on a bus, I will let that one pass as I'm not prepared to go back into a conversation about inconsiderate and downright ignorant Londoners who do antisocial things in a public space. Louisa.

Classes are defined by the transformation an area undergoes when people of a certain class move in. The death of shops worth visiting- random pointless overpriced gift shops popping up all over the gaff. Wealthy people turning pubs into gastro eateries no one wants to go to because they have no atmosphere. The death of community- because said posh people don't wish to integrate they wish to transform into something they want and feel comfortable with. It's about all the things you hinted at Ron70. Louisa.

I don't HATE anyone. You dragged my dislike of Rye Lane back to race, when I made it clear that was NOT the case. You now suggest I only appear to like white working-class people, which again is NOT true. I like many people. I also dislike many people - from various backgrounds. My point on this particular thread is that posh people have been witnessed virtually ramming working class AND other POSH people into the road due to their arrogance. I'm not saying all posh people do this, but I have seen a disproportionate number doing it in the years I've contributed to this forum. I'm not saying working class people don't ram people off the pavement too, maybe they do, I've personally never been at the receiving end of it. If anyone else has please do share with us. Louisa.

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Louisa I'm not quite sure who you actually DO > like, last week you were hating on the regular > users / culture of Rye Lane being beneath your > standards and now you hate posh people. Make your > mind up please. I guess you could hate both but > it doesn't leave much room for the love. Oh I get > it, you like white people. Who are NOT posh, but > working class. KK before you do go down the route of accusing me of having a 'chip on my shoulder' (eg yummies and class) you may want to get that rather large one removed from yours. Just as you seem to bring every single comment of mine back to race in recent post history, whilst at the same time bizarrely accusing me of not liking anyone. Odd. And there was me getting a complex about relating class back to EVERY issue on here. Louisa.

Also a RIGHT to eat buckets of deep fried chicken on a bus! and guess what I don't even use a bus! Louisa.

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Louisa - you come across as incredibly judgemental > (although I suspect this may just be part of your > shtick). For someone who professes to dislike > snobs, rudeness and prejudice, there is an > incoherence in your posts. Excuse me!? I am standing up for people forced into the road by crazy buggy pavement hoggers and you then call me the "INCREDIBLY rude judgmental" one with an "inconsistent" posting history. I was equally as forthright about the children blocking the path of busy workers getting off trains at PR station but you conveniently overlook that because I am concentrating on the ever so cherished arrogant yummies. I dislike anyone who feels they have a RIGHT to keep streets dirty or untidy, a RIGHT to block pavements, a RIGHT to attack someone else for having a different opinion to themselves. There is no inconsistency in my posts. Louisa.

PokerTime I agree a London is quite unique in this sense, although it does seem to be spreading out into surrounding towns and counties. The go-get dog eat dog mentality is and always will be a part of London life, however, rudeness and basic poor manners should not be accepted in a day to day scenario. The posh mums and prams scenario is a tip of the iceberg In terms of arrogance. It's something many on here have even experienced in some of the Indy shops locally aimed at said 'posh' folk. Louisa.

Pokertime yes there are good and bad people from all backgrounds yadda yadda. I've had enough of being taught to suck eggs today. I know all this. However, this does NOT detract from the facts for me and others. People from well to do well educated backgrounds should be more polite. My experience of the many of the ones roaming the streets of ED is that they tend not to be. I have not experienced the same issues with other folk. And to be fair to Rye Lane here on this point, the people who shop their tend to be the types who will hold a door open for you or politely move out of the way if you are disabled or struggling. This is a rare thing these days along LL, that's all I'm saying. Quids- ill send you a cheque in the post ;-) Louisa.

jimbo it depends what you mean by 'normal'. I'm not suggesting everyone is posh, but on our doorstep we have a handful of private schools and homes are not cheap to buy or even rent here. There is a knock on effect and I would estimate more posh people than not. Louisa.