I like you Grumpyoldman, you are my kind of diamond geezer, there are some very strange people around lurking on this forum, its all very trivial really. some of the issues are serious some are pathetic, there are a number of odd ball types and some very serious people who have had a personality and or humour bypass. but generally most of them are quite nice and intellectual people that you can have interesting conversations with, there are some who are so filled with rage and scorn they would complain if opportunity knocked.