James Barber

traveler2 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi James, have you heard anything about an > approval given for allowing the Nunhead Primary > School to share the site with the new secondary > school where the Dulwich Hospital currently is? > > Trav Hi traveler2, Only one free school is currently approved awaiting confirmation of a site - the second East Dulwich Harris Primary school which bizarely they've given a working title of Harris Nunhead Primary school. The application from both Haberdashers' Aske's Federation and Charter Federation have been submitted to open local secondary schools were submitted last Friday 10 October and we won't hear the result until around late January time at the earleist. So as the only approved free school the Dept for Education and Educational Finanace Agency is at this time minded to put the junior school on a small part of the Dulwich Community Hospital site. Primary schools typically need 1,800m2 as a minimum. The NHS are expecting to release 19-21,000m2 of land after they've put all the planned health services into one super new building (where the currently flattened land is at the eastern end of the site). A secondary school would ideally have 19,550m2 of land. So it is possible to house both schools there with proper travel planning reducing the number of teacher car parking spaces and perhpas having secondary school buildings as high as the current Dulwich Hospital buildings. I'd prefer the primary school be placed on an alternative site but it is Southwark COuncil zoning another site such as 520 Lordship Lane that is the determining factor. but a bigger problem is that Southwark Council in 2005 before any thought we'd need more school places zoned the hospital site for health, HOUSING and possibly educational use. So the land valued for housing redevelopment is so hightly valued that only a small amount could be afforded for new schools. 19,550m2 would cost more than ?65M. It would be the most expensive state secondary school of all time. BUT if Southwark re zone the land solely for health and educational use the land values would be significantly lower at around ?12M i.e. affordable. The current book value of the site is ?18M of which 2/3rd would go to educational use). I have repeatedly asked Southwark Council to re zone this site but so far they have not acted on these.

Unless Southwark Council amend their zoning of the hospital site we won't have either schools on the site or if we do they'll have tiny footprints and have to be very tall to make way for housing that is zoned for the site. We have 250+ local families supporting primary schools and 750+ secondary schools. We need both. The petition is effectively asking to cancel a junior school - as Southwark hasn't zoned any other land for educational use. The minister has no mechanism for this. But does have a mechanism to not approve a new free school application. So yes I listen to residents but if I see a car crash coming I won't remain silent to say I told you so afterwards. I've also had professional advice saying both schools could fit there but not ideal as it would mean less car parking for teachers and going up an extra storey for buildings. Things I'd like to avoid - especially when it's in Southwark Councils gift to avoid this. Hence why the I think this is the wrong petition to help get the best local schools possible.

Hi congusedbyitall, Currently Southwark Council zoning of the Dulwich Hospital is for health, new housing and piossibly education. So the Dept of Health advisors will value all the non health land for residential housing. That's circa ?6M/1,800m2 at Christmas 2013 land values when 1,800m2 was sold for ?6M for a new primary school when the new Harris primary school had to price match a housing developer to obtain the land. That would price sufficent land for a secondsty school at the hospital sites at ?65M. That is a higher land value than any UK school has taken place. This is more critical than any other factor. The petition is saying don't support two schools on the site. One of those school is approved waiting fora site to be agreed. The other has been submitted and not approved. One way of resolving this is to reject the application for a new secndary school. It's clear the advise given so far to the ministers hasn;t always taken everything you and I would expect into account. Hi P68, When we asked every local provider about whether they would be interested in working with us to create new local schools in 2011 they were the only fruit in town - schools such as The Charter School head at that time were clear they weren't interested. I entirely agree our GP's are wanting. Which wis why after 20 years of messing around we've been pushing for the Dulwich Hospital site to be resolved. It presents a great opportunity to fix things. if you look at council officers reports, which have underestimated local need it will be tight with all the planned schools. Our state schools locally, with the exception now of Kingsdale, serve very small areas. So yes, we need more schools and the places they bring.

This petition misses the problem pretty much entirely and risks our desperately needed secondary school applicastions beinf refused. Southwark Council planning documents state they expect to see Health, new housing and possibly educational use at the Dulwuich Hospital site. So far, the council have refused to withdraw that document and indicate they intend to change the zoning of Dulwich Hospital to solely health and education. So the land prices will be based on housing development which would value the non health part around 18,000m2 or the perfect size for a secondary school at over ?60m. Which would mean only a portion would be bought for a new secondary school. Equally Southwark Council have so far refused to re zone 520 Lordship Lane for education use i.e. finding an alternative site for the second local Harris primary school - and where one of the two primary school black holes are for admissions. Complaining to a minister that an approved scheme for a new free school should be dumped as not enough room for it and an as yet unapproved free school application is asking for the secondary school applications to be refused. I would urge people to think very clearly what this petition is asking for and from whom it is asking. Southwark council are responsible for land zoning NOT the governments educaton ministers.

If anyone is having a problem please email me and I'll escalate and ask questions around the service, average time to issue, etc.

From an operational point of view, and I'm sure this could be resolved, having adults and children from other schools who Alleyn's have't CRB or whatever the new TLA is for this now would mean they need extra staff on hand to ensure child safety. One way around this would be to ensure the fields are used at different times. But I can understand an initial H&S excuse on these grounds. They'd also need to check insurances. But the way to resolve tihs isn't via this forum. My earlier post was written after checking with the Headteacher of Heber School.

I've checked with Heber School and they hold their annual sports day at Alleyn's sports field every year. No mention of asking for years to use Alleyn's sports field and being refused.

I very much doubt the present ground will be developed for housing. It would represent the loss of as valuble community facility and the council has numerous policies to prevent this UNLESS councillors on a planning committee are asked to vote on this and the Labour administration wanted it to proceed. Equally allowing a new ground to be build on open space would be a repeat of how the current stadium came about. And in 20 years it would be proposed to move it again and again until we have no open green space in the area. I would hope that the Labout administration on a promise of universal free gym and swimming. It could pay for residents to access the gym creating a revenue stream to help keep the club going. Clearly trying to provide free gym and swimming in the council existing facilities wouldnt have sufficient capacity - so if they genuinely meant to deliver their promise they'll need a great deal more capacity.

If you email [email protected] they'll send someone to remove it.

Hi Beej, Dulwich Cars minicab office is located on Zenoria Street close to its junction with Lordship Lane. It operates 24/7. Their drives park up leaving engines running, coming and going from what otherwise is a very quiet residential street. This happens through the night. So all these issues of a high turnover of people coming and going 24/7 residents from Zenoria and Oxonian reported to me by a number of resident, that it causes them a loss of amenity and much inconvenience. I've interpreted this as suffering. Hi StraferJack, Yes, when the applicants wanted long hours and assumed zero customers would travel along Zenoria/Oxonian. They also hadnt sorted out a proper fire exit and were talking to planners as being 8-10 Lordship Lane when they're not.

Hi cwklawrence, Yes, applications need to be made during October ie. now for schemes to be delivered financial year 15/16. http://www.southwark.gov.uk/info/200256/cleaner_greener_safer/1554/applications If anyone plans to apply please do get in touch if you need infomration about typical costs of things etc or any advice.

Hi polla2256, No you can't legally attached a floor anchor to thep ublci highway. These are funded by our East Dulwich ward crime prevention fund for use on private property. Creating motor bike parking areas on residential streets. I'm happy to experiment with this. IF a resident biker wants to apply to have such a zone set-up outside thier home on the street in East Dulwich ward please get in touch with me.

Such a scheme is long overdue. We looked at doing something with this open space in 2005 and the ward councillors were dead set against it - sports facilities for local primary schools that don't have enoguh outdoor space. But a new public park would still be a great idea. Even better if linked to St.Francis Park. Dulwich Hamlet do depend on letting the all weather pitch out for revenue. But equally the whole space they lease is in such a poor state that I'm personally not convinced they'll be able to upgrade it and our community shouldn't defer sorting this space out any longer.

Hi eggandsquares, This sounds really odd. Leaving your rubbish on the pavement will cause all sorts of other problems. Do you want ot email me about this and see if I can help?

Hi Zenoria, I was approached by a developers agent several times earlier this year asking about it becoming a restaurant. I made it very clear this would be an unacceptable use to the neighbours who already suffer from the minicab office. They have decided to push ahead. Or it might be someone proposing to convert it into residential property. The developers keep trying to describe it as being on Lordship Lane - I'm sure they'll try and hoodwink planning officers in this way. So if you spot any notices on a lamppost please report it to me.

Southwark Council have launched round 2 of the High Street Challenge -http://www.southwark.gov.uk/downloads/download/3715/high_street_challenge_prospectus_and_application_form Whatever your ideas to improve Lordship Lane and make it more vibrant please complete the attached form and email it [email protected] and copy me. In filling the form if you have any questions about likely cost or anything else please don't hesitate to contact me.

Hi just_browsing, Great idea recreating Peckham Lido - I signed the petition several weeks ago and would encourage other to do the same. Please see - http://www.change.org/p/southwark-council-re-open-peckham-rye-lido Sign up to the Facebook page - https://www.facebook.com/peckhamlido And follow -

They had quite a struggle with planning which I was glad to help about a couple of year ago from memory.

EDLove, We should not turn a blind eye to the Dulwich Estate gagging a new local junior school from talking about the disservice the Dulwich estate has done to them. The Dulwich Estate has ensured this new state funded school has no playground so that the Dulwich Estate can maximise funding for better facilities and subsidies to local private fee paying schools. You are right in that the terms of their references are being strictly followed but those terms don't mean they have to be so brutal in the execution of property management. It is hard to accept that they are being charitable or working charitably for the greater good. So with respect to this threads title - for the Judith Kerr state funded school on Half Mood Lane the Dulwich Estate is indeed a latter day Robin Hood in reverse.

Boy this is a tough one. Admissions is complicated enough already. I can see why Wandsworth are trying this experiment. I guess if you said siblings had to either be at an address the same distance or less as the sibling already in the school or within 800m whichever is the higher. Then you're covered for the occasional bulge class. You're ensuring people don't rent a house just for the original admissions purpose. Non of the East Dulwich primary schools have admissions distance close to 800m. Part of creating a great school is having a local school community. If people dip in for admissions and then move further away they're less likely to be able to support that wider school community.

Or just ping me an email - I'll check you're in the areas covered (East Dulwich ward) with a couple of hours and get onto the Police for you. Ideally include a phone number so the Police can call you to arrange their home visit to drop the kit round.

Hi helenmct21, you should ask for an itemised bill. You should also check what actions you can take see: https://www.gov.uk/leasehold-property/service-charges-and-other-expenses

Hi Healeay, Camberwell and Walworth Road rail stations didn't survive an extensive tram network being installed. The trams went but the Bakerloo line extension building works started around that time but then stopped. So I would suggest people argue for one of two extensions via Camberwell and further south as well as Old Kent Road. If it fails we plug the Southwark Supertram or reopening those railway stations. History suggests pushing for all thos things is likely to see none of them come to pass.

Hi pipsky2008, Will take a look.

Hi bloonoo, I don't but will find out.