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Actually Jah, I don't think he is. We do already have event TV in this country, it's just that it's communal only in the sense that it's tweeted and facebooked and watercoolered about, rather than watched all together. That doesn't mean that a pub shouldn't encourage the watching together. Broken down, something like X Factor makes good group TV, because you have performances and scores, it encourages conversation, rather than something like Corrie, that it's a bit pointless to talk over. I like what the Victoria is doing.

There can be a gulf between "believe" and "know" though.

And as I said, a lot of people go out to watch football. I suspect more people watch X Factor than will be watching Arsenal / Wigan tonight (in Wigan at least!)

Now I'm intrigued by this - what then would the little nubbins at the side be, if indeed it were thumbs? Edited on account of burrito-based babbling incoherence.

Odyssey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Arrogance > is in the mirror of those who look for it. And pretension is..?

karter Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If you want to call girls lesbians ok but why use > big rubber... For the same reason that men who aren't homosexual often enjoy a little PR exam.

That's not what I meant!

True dat girlfriend.

That's "film" Karter.

DJKQ, you're a bit mental about Rebecca. I sort of like your ardent zeal and unshakeable belief in your own rightness, but I don't understand it. Rebecca's not one of the greats either, and frankly, if we're talking singing ability, John Lennon's a really really odd choice. Whiny scouser - whereas Tom Jones (who gets an "even") has a brilliant voice.

Not just Newcastle girls - I once slept in Manchester Victoria train station (entirely open to the elements) in February in hotpants - my friend and I were underage clubbing and each told our mothers we were staying at each others' houses. We're hardy folk up north.

I can't believe that pubs show football. What a load of tedious w@nk. Horses for courses Jah. It wouldn't be top of my list of Saturday pub treats, but god knows, I've sat through some bloody boring football in the pub in my time. S'why god invented the newspaper, innit?

What Hona said. Or indeed any more offensive than saying something deliberately snide or condescending and then adding a winky face, like, "Who, little ole me? I'm just being cute."

You really have to have an awful lot of cupboard space to bother...

Yup - designed so the stems could be submerged in water while the tips steam, ensuring even cooking.

Hmm, Odyssey, you wouldn't be the first to want to punch Huguenot, but it doesn't strike me that you've won this one. A little arrogant, no, to assume you would be delivering him a knock-out punch?

Did you hear about the X Factor finalists and the china vase? They smashed it. Did you hear about the X Factor finalists and the plank of wood? They nailed it. I swear to god - I'm going to be smashing my television if their bloody scriptwriters don't do a better job. Tiny little things that grow into great big things that give you irrational rage. And what the hell is Bieber?

Who the fuck is voting for Gavin? Who likes that sulky, talentless, intellectually subnormal, orange gimp? Whoever you are, come here while I beat some IQ points and / or taste in men into you.

Shyness isn't a problem, but is there any sense of a personality in there anywhere? You know the terrible hackneyed thing they say every week about you know what you'd get if you went to see one of them in concert? I have no freaking clue what I'd get if I went to see her in concert. She strikes me as Sade-light to sip the pinot grigio to.

Think the Victoria on Bellenden do.

pk Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > it might look like 'the finger' and be called 'the > finger' but when i suggested in the past that it > was 'the finger' people such as smg told me it > wasn't 'the finger' here > > http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?2 > 0,160299,160307#msg-160307 pk, don't let this alarm you, or switch irrevocably your world view to dystopian, but it has on very rare occasion been known for smg to be wrong. You, on the other hand, were emphatically right.

How has anyone ever thought it was anything but the finger? My eyesight isn't great, but I can see the "thumbs" at the side of the "hands". And the colour red suggests anger, no? And the head bobbing like some kind of Wayne's World retard..? It's clearly the finger. I was only confused at the beginning of the thread, because it is so painfully obvious that it's the finger, that if there was some confusion as to what it actually meant, then clearly it was something rather subtle and subliminal and completely different to the very obvious pair of fingers held aloft. However, perhaps I've never been offended by it because I have the mouth of a fishwife. Anyway, on this, as on all things, I concur with *Bob* - if you'd care to read his point on use of punctuation faces on the resurrected thread.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well why did you ask what it meant in your first > post. ?? I believe I said, Which it transpires is what it does mean. You told me to google the meaning of giving someone the finger, not the meaning of said smiley. Like most people over the age of 5, I know what giving someone the finger means.

Well yeah, that too.

Really uncomfortable about the Katie hair-shearing: it's like she's Aslan, or a French collaborator, and must shave her head and don sackcloth and ashes as a sign of penance for showing she wanted to win the popularity contest. I feel a bit icky. And she looked better before.