richard tudor

Charles Notice Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Can we know where the 44 locations are and why > they have been selected. Council officers > choice,residents, cycle pressure groups or > expensive consultants. After the Townley Road who did what show I too would like to know the answers to the above. The answers are there as they made a decision based on them

Holymoly I suspect the articulate letter above will be destined for the waste bin. Southwark Officers have their own agenda.

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Creating 'piecemeal' 20mph zones is (broadly) > unhelpful. There is an argument for properly > planned and consulted broad zones - so the drivers > in them can be (reasonably) sure of the relevant > limits - and these should be properly marked-up > with regular speed limit reminders (I have posted > elsewhere on the 'Rapel' system used in e.g. > France to remind people of the limits). I think > (and I live in it) that Underhill is all 20mph - > but it is not always clear - and I am regularly > hooted at, when going at or just below 20, by > drivers who either don't know, or don't care, and > wish me either to speed up or to let them > over-take. > > In many places weight of traffic and of parking > mean that 20mph or less is often the only safe > speed to go at (sometimes the only possible speed > to go at) outwith any formally set limits. > > I would be happy for the whole of Dulwich and ED > south of Goose Green and bounded by the S Circular > to be 20mph as a broad zone, properly marked-up, > but odd roads and half roads make no sense and > will simply confuse. > > I suspect, based on other posts, that Mr Barber is > mixing it with fellow councillors in another ward > and is using this 'genuine question' as a > political stalking horse. His right, of course, as > party political politician, ours, not to play the > games with him. Have to say I agree with this sentiment regarding the political side not the 20 mph broad zone.

Please find panel members below: Cllrs that were at community meeting regarding 20 mph discussion Councillor Helen Hayes - College Ward - Labour Councillor Lewis Robinson - College Ward - Conservative ? Councillor Andy Simmons - College Ward ? Labour Councillor Robin Crookshank Hilton - Village Ward - Liberal Democrat ? Councillor Toby Eckersley - Village Ward ? Conservative Councillor Michael Mitchell - Village Ward - Leader of the Conservative Group Councillor James Barber - East Dulwich Ward - Liberal Democrat ? Councillor Jonathan Mitchell - East Dulwich Ward - Liberal Democrat ? Councillor Rosie Shimell - East Dulwich Ward - Liberal Democrat

Twirly Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I assumed it was the other end of Melbourne Grove > - it comes out on Lordship Lane quite far south, > near Whateley Road. The end near Kwikfit actually > comes out on Grove Vale, not Lordship Lane. James Barber Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The new 20mph speed limit goes from goose green > roundabout to Melbourne grove.

Dear Cllr Barber Have just read this 20mph posting and am confused. Just walked from Melbourne Grove past Kwikfit and can see no markings or signs that indicate it is now a 20mph stretch. Yet from Goose Green roundabout towards the Plough 20mph markings are on the ground. Coming down to the Goose Green roundabout from the plough there is a sign that says 30 mph ends. Always thought this bit of LL from the plough was 30mph What is the correct explanation. Or have the signs been painted wrongly? DulwichFox said the signs and road markings went up last week Look forward to hearing

Being nosy, what happened

Would this extraordinary rise in traffic volumes over the past 6-12 months have anything to do with the ongoing water.gas electric works that seem to have closed off many roads for the past 6-12 months? forcing traffic to find others routes. Which is still going on this morning in the Bellenden area

The current system works and has stood the test of time. Spend the money else where where it would be appreciated.

I can endorse the last paragraph having lived in the area for almost 48 years. The current road system has worked ever since it was first put in. Tried and tested This is just change for the sake of change. An example in this plan. Why would you want to close off Bellenden/highshore Road with bollards. Lets hope the views of long established residents will be valued, I think someone asked how many accidents has happened in the one way system, from memory NONE. With such a lack of consultation lets hope that this has not already been decided.

How many one stop shops are open and where are they

Renata Hamvas Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The fire is above the one stop shop. This, the > Library and the Cumings museum will remain closed. > Everyone has been safely evacuated. The Southwark > website will be updated with any further > information. > > The following bus routes are subject to diversion > and delays in the area: > 12,35,40,45,68,148,171,176,468 and P5 > > Renata How many one stop shops are open and where are they

Whilst the area has greatly improved and is very welcome not all roads have benefited. Chadwick Road from Bellenden to Grove Park has never been regened. It always gets forgotten in the great scheme. Perhaps because most of the properties are Council or Housing Association and repairs do not figure high on their list. If you doubt this observation take a walk and see.

Why would cars be on pedestrian walkways. Road and pavements When was the last time you you were in LL to see how fast traffice moves.

What are the official figures showing how fast people are going. You have the number of cars going down a major road what are the figures for speed. How will 20 mph make people spend more?

Thanks but not necessary. Brain might overload digesting it in depth

Why did you find it necessary to edit that rather long first message and respond with this one? I am sure people would have found your first answer educational like I did. However it has gone, was it wrong? Makes my response above seem pointless now as it does not appear to respond to your last message

I can see that your University education is standing you in good stead with information. Have you manage to put your traffic education to good effect in a planning job yet? That is why I mentioned man with red flag who knows when a person will jump out. They are rather like those bollards that jump out and hit your mode of transport when you least expect them.

The high street can be used safely and shared with traffic if pedestrians use the pavements and cross at the crossings and not jay walk. Never hear of pedestrians being at fault. As mentioned before LL proceeds at a snails pace. Speed is not a problem. Would like to know where speeding takes place. Is this job creation by Southwark to employ a man with a red flag to control traffic.

Or Ed has an Iceland but no Waitrose or M & S

Do you mean "Lordship Lane" SE22? Traffic never seems to get above a crawl from Goose Green to the Plough.

Explanation from Southwark Dear Mr. Tudor Thank you for your e-mail to Peter John which has been passed to me for reply. I fully understand your concern with the amount of road works in the Bellenden Road area. While the Council has powers to control the manner in which road works are undertaken we do not have the power to refuse an application from companies undertaking the work. In this case Southern Gas Networks are currently working at the junction of Bellenden Road and Chadwick Road. The works are the final phase of gas main replacements in The Lane ward. The works on Bellenden Road commenced in September 2012 and consist of the following, a) laying approximately 350 metres of new 315mm gas mains b) abandoning 350 metres of old 12" gas mains c) 12 mains connections d) relay/renew 52 service connections to properties The works were suspended over the Christmas period to allow some respite to the business and residents and recommenced on February 18th to complete the final 12 service connections to the properties at the junction of Chadwick Road. Works are estimated to completes March 8th. Previous works at this location included the Thames Water Victorian Main Replacement works. Due to the logistics involved and the position of the gas and water mains, it was not possible to have both gas and water working simultaneously. I can assure you that we do scrutinise the these works regularly and if you have any further concerns regarding these works please contact Ian Law, our street works manager, who copied into this e-mail Regards

Think it was Moss Autos. Citroen Car Dealer

From attachments from Sue many people think they are

Is the identical house behind it to remain. So we have two houses Had a idea it was put up without permission