???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 70 years without a World War is the > argument...whether you buy that argument or not is > up to you I get that, the whole MAD thing, and I think that under the cold war there was probably some truth in it, although I am not sure that we needed them, as America, China and Russia seemed to be the big players. Like Keef says, Germany faired ok without them being under the NATO treaty where the ethos was an attack against one is an attack against all, if I am not very much mistaken. I sort of meant nowadays really? I guess I am undecided on it, but it strikes me that they are a weapon that can only ever be used once everyone, or nearly everyone in the country is dead or dying or wiped out. Just don't get what the point would be in using them under this scenario and therefore keeping them. Does NATO have the same ethos as the cold war?