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Haha The Man is in on everything. Cover up!!!!! and oh look that word “disgraceful” again It’s more likely to be cock up than conspiracy

Your understanding is incorrect. Lammy was repeating an old tutor of farage who recalled him singing hitler youth songs. No need for this to contemporaneous with hitler being alive but easier to suggest Lammy at fault that reckon with what is staring us in the face with farage eh? Impossible to have a conversation with this level of nuts doesn’t help when they keep promising never to engage and then get all upset when they do let’s at you are right (and that means ignoring a whole decade plus of evidence just so you can cherry pick) and Reeve’s single handedly tasks the country next month who clears up? The only people you quote happen to think argentinas tinpot leader is the solution - so I don’t see how that works

Like cancerian, my suspicion would be that jazzer doesn’t just rely on “right wing press” but “does his own research” on some unsavoury online quarters they never back anything up, never engage in good faith, just endless spouting of meaningless talking points coupled with defensive “I have an opinion!!!” And a smidge of conspiracy (“you all know each other and gang up on anyone who doesn’t share your opinion” just endlessly, boringly wearisome

chicken licken here who else was a big fan of Javier? Oh yeah - Badenoch who said "he is the template" the UK is not a sinking ship - it is a listing shi[p after years of mismanagement (and Brexit - lol. "the people are wise") - your constant 26 Nov is like those religious cults in America who always have a date for the end of the world and always have an excuse when the date passes

There is no topic - just a usual unfounded hit and run from cancerian. No his speech wasn't disgraceful and no he hasn't lost his job What else is there to say on the matter? (the subject of Lammy's speech is where the thread has gone and that seems logical) So do we think the racist is a racist? Even if he isn't (and he definitely is) , Farage is wrong about everything. Brexit? wrong. Truss? Wrong. 2 weeks ago he was wanging on about Argentina's Milei being the future and now look at Argentina - and people want THIS for the UK??? Some people have no sense of proportionality - yes Labour have had a weak first year, but looking at the alternatives they are easily the safest ship we have to choose from right now)

Anyone know what this means?

It’s allowed. Just weirdly unnecessary. Surely easy enough for a native like yourself or do we foreigners have to teach ye everything?

Accidentally posting your search terms and results there jazzer because there isn’t another sane explanation for what you just did

There are legal problems when especially high profile individuals call other individuals racist - which or any explains Lammy backtracking but if YOU are not able to look at Farage, his statements and his history and not see that he is a massive racist, then the problem isn’t legal but your own (poxy) brokenness cancerian: do you think farage has a racist bone in his body? Yes or no Cancerian comes in and just sprays “disgraceful” everywhere. Where challenged he has got nuthin’

Cancerian loves wallowing around in some right-wing pools and then dumping on here starts a thread calling something “disastrous” with nothing to back it up and then goes all pearl clutchy with “this is the lounge!!!’” a pox

I’m glad we still barter for everything no wait. We write cheques now - taps nose -

Yep. Yet completely in keeping with this mad post-Brexit country Yeah but the poll tax was manifestly unfair financially where the richest millionaire paid same as a single pensioner in a one bed flat this id thing is just… hysterical

I don’t think having a digital id is the same thing as requiring people to have a mobile phone but if you are someone looking for work in this country and don’t have access to a phone or a computer already, regardless of any govt scheme, then I dunno man. Can’t see that being very many people at all. If any

Don’t think it isn’t already an ongoing concern

One of those times when I as a non-Brit look at all of you on all political sides with your full puffed-out “I’m a free person in a free country sir! I will never, never I say… “ etc etc basically the full Boris Johnson schtick Now it must be said that this gov and its stated reasons for the card (the Brit card. FFS) is the usual unworkable nonsense that being said, people from other countries long ago discovered the benefit of joined up govt and are doing fine. So let’s all stop clutching pearls, point out flaws in contradictory thinking and just get on with it. Sure, this country being this country will fudge and kludge and basically produce a c- version. But still a farage govt will not be able to do any more damage with an id card than without. I think that line of thinking is emotive nonsense tbh comparisons with poll tax are weird and the petition being up to 2.5 million should be a source of embarrassment tbh

Ah but what if I were to remind you I’m not from this country at all!

My birthday just sayin’

A lot of this is down to why the high street came into being in the first place consumer demand And now times has changed and consumers behave differently. And businesses adapt to that. It’s a bottom up approach as opposed to something imposed upon us. It’s not to my tastes. But what do people expect to happen. Jazzer is on to something when he says boycott Amazon - but the reality is even many who boycott Amazon choose other or more ethical alternatives. But still online going into town for “a shop” just isn’t what people do anymore Yeah but that’s not a real comparison. And “for ill” glosses over a lot of wrong as well but we live in 2025 now and any of us oldies who think when we were 20 was the best time ever, a time we should go back to are just pining for our youths there is no country in the world that can turn back the clock. So in 2025, where is the closest vision of somewhere you would like. Because if you look globally you don’t just get capitalism. You can choose dictatorships or communism too

In what sense? Be more specific (and I have worked in retail and hospitality) nothing I said is in any way anti-retail as far as I can see Out of interest and for comparison, which country do you think gets it right to a significant degree?

Of course as these places revive, for the reasons you correctly state, there is no shortage of people moaning “just what we need. Another coffee shop or bar!” and of course there are limits. But social spaces are the future of revived town centres as much as or more than traditional retail Face to face shopping is important and a good thing but landlords are not going to swallow the lower rents that are required to revive retail in town centres shopkeeers don’t help themselves either sometimes. Yer famous butcher in Dulwich spent more time complaining about congestion charge in Kennington instead of saying how that led to his business booming in Dulwich On the other hand again look what happened when his butcher shop took off in lordship lane. Other people started moaning about the queues!! Successful business!!! Boo hiss sometimes I do wonder if the “left behind” find themselves in that position not because of govt policy or newcomers but because they will never be happy and become pains in the hole which business and other people avoid

Never mind my opinion just yet. You started a thread calling it disastrous and him losing the plot - but nothing he said matches those descriptions so I’m asking what do you mean? Am I a LibDem supporter? Hmm - well I live in a LibDem/Tory marginal seat and definitely voted LibDem to get the awful Tory (now Reform) minister out. But traditionally I would be more Labour aligned (but I'm not tribal - never joined a party) Was this Ed Davey speech a good one? well the usual platitudes about growing an economy, cutting energy bills, etc etc - all the usual stuff that doesn't mean much years from an election - just directional aspirations. But what I DID like was a political leader willing to call out Trump/Farage - something Starmer, sitting on a huge majority, is too timid to do At no point did I see anything disastrous or someone losing the plot - and from what I've read across teh political spectrum the speech was broadly praised. So again - where do you get disastrous or "losing the plot" from?

So, there IS a leader of a U.K. party outlining plans for 2029 and beyond? Do tell us who and what they are

By what definition was it “disastrous”?

Generally speaking, some medium size market towns and lesser cities always seem more prone to random violence and aggro generally than anywhere I’ve been in London

It should be easy enough to point out to anyone even thinking of voting reform that should they take power they will have no impact. And will make things worse. And if people think politicians break promises now and reform are a breath of fresh air then they ain’t seen nothing yet but they won’t really care about immigration if reform do win uk used to be about law and order and now we have dim talking heads everywhere unchallenged going “leave the ECHR, stuff the judges, just do it!!” like life is that simple sweeties