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I'm hopeful we now won't get the full metal Brexit only a handful of nutters ever wanted.

Who'd a thunk it, turns out when Labour does Labour things, people vote for them.

Borky Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This place is jam packed with fools and lunatics - > and not in a good way - where have they all come > from since I got sent to devils islands last time > ? Barometer of cultural sensitivity and sanity has spoken.

Everyone wants to balance the budget until nan's on the line.

Lordship 516 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > miga Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Clearly the most effective way to reduce > spending > > is to eliminate anyone over 65 in a one off > budget > > rebalancing cull. Apart from reducing the > pensions > > bill, this will solve the housing crisis as > well > > as the NHS capacity issues. > > Why stop with eliminating the old? - eliminate the > sick, the disabled, the poor & the unemployed & > you can have your ideal eugenicist utopia that > the gallant Nazi cousins fought for. Then the > ?258billion saved would build all the houses that > were needed - solution all round. Fixed. Let's not over reach, one group at a time. We've done the immigrants, let's do the elderly next and see where we end up, yeah?

You're hired!

Clearly the most effective way to reduce spending is to eliminate anyone over 65 in a one off budget rebalancing cull. Apart from reducing the pensions bill, this will solve the housing crisis as well as the NHS capacity issues.

titch juicy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > miga Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > titch juicy Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > The vast majority of IS wealth comes from > > robbery, > > > extortion, oil revenue, taxation and > > kidnapping. > > > Less than 5% of Islamic State's revenue comes > > from > > > donations, > > > > Would love to see the evidence for this. > > > There's a fair bit on this in the Washington Post > piece. > > > https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/1 > 1/18/how-isis-makes-its-money/?utm_term=.d404c6bd1 > 3d8 It's the "less than 5%" I found dubious. The article you mention talks about "100s of $M from Kuwait for the various rebel groups". It's two years old (and oil supply lines have been hit since). It also talks about porous borders. Wars are really expensive and they're fighting on several different fronts.

titch juicy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The vast majority of IS wealth comes from robbery, > extortion, oil revenue, taxation and kidnapping. > Less than 5% of Islamic State's revenue comes from > donations, Would love to see the evidence for this. > Furthermore, Corbyn has repeatedly refused to call > for Assad to step down or transition out of power. > This is why the rebels are fighting, they want > Assad gone. Some are, some aren't, it's not like there is one cogent group of rebels fighting to create a western liberal democratic paradise - the most powerful anti-Assad group wants something totally different and I doubt the disappearance of Assad will make them reconsider.

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > He has been a bit of knob (JP), but there again > that it why he is there. > > I was actually more struck by the ad for on-line > bingo after Corbyn. What have we become? > > I may have a slight adiction to social media, but > I am not losing my shirt. That would be a good > question, not would you get rid of the monarchy? > (where I am with Corbyn, agreeing that this is a > low priority) but what would you do to control > on-line betting? Oh and payday loans? Oh and cheap > alcohol? I'm on a roll. Bingo. Darn sight better than the Falklands.

depends on if you're selling a house or not

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ... the street signs say SE22. and google maps confirms your hunch....

Shhhhhhhh!! Strong and stable, strong and stable. It'll all be fine.

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The only possible reason I can see for it is > xenophobia. I think the immigration stance is pragmatic in the sense that it's built not to lose votes from some already established demographics, but to harness the power of xenophobia. He got his stats a bit muddled up, but Osborne's editorial the other day was excellent on this.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Nope - society is what it is with some of it's > flaws which will right themselves over time to be > replaced by other imperfections - it's not rigged > by vested interests. Yes, sure, life expectancy is on the whole rising, hunger etc. are diminishing, But this was the case in Soviet Union too - from 1917 medieval life expectancy levels to 1970s when it was on par with the States. Not that I care for a Soviet style system, merely pointing out that the supposed exemplar of the system you decry delivered in the same way on the criteria of your choice. But, that sidetrack aside, I'm sure you don't need me to point out the obvious about wealth inequality, the massive influence parents' wealth plays on outcomes for kids, how proportionally fewer and fewer kids will be richer than their parents compared to previous generations, decline of membership at golf clubs because of less leisure time among professional classes etc. I'm glad I was born when I was and previous generations, especially my grandparents' and beyond, had it much tougher, but so much indicates that more and more your background determines your future. After what feels like a late 20th century blip of large scale mobility. . In that sense, I feel society is rigged.

Isn't society rigged?

I think whoever thought they'd be doing Corbyn a disservice by leaking the manifesto scored an own goal.

Costings. What will Brexit cost and who brought it about? Manifestos. Who very recently crapped all over theirs? Nationalising railways. What benefit of the pseudo-market do commuters and taxpayers of Greater London on Thameslink or Southern get from the current model? Sure, manifestos are full of unicorns, but another unicorn is that with storms on the horizon, the Tories bring about sensible governance and stability. That's not been what I've seen since 2010.

The ideas are great, I love how riled up the Telegraph was this morning. Public views on politics have changed, but this is closer as a Lab set of promises to core Lab values than they've been for a long time. Implementation is suspect, and as an org they're in chaos, but the promises are nice.

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > SEN/Disabilities aside, anyone that lives within 2 > miles of their kid's primary school and drives > them needs shooting. Just bloody walk, it's good > exercise for your kids and for you. The whole family or just the kids? But seriously - while I generally agree (minus the shooting bit), and am wound up by people parking across my drive - you can't know what manner of complication is going on in people's morning routines that means driving is a better option (different schools across the borough, dropping off on way to far flung work, morning chores etc.).

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > -skill shortages is the potential issue here so > that does need addressing. or to put a completely OTT positive spin on it, maybe we'll stop importing fully formed professionals from abroad and start investing in technical training here.....maybe.

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------- > I wouldn't > expect a German to apologise / feel guilt or "face > up to" the actions of Hitler, because it was > absolutely nothing to do with them), I think German kids spend a lot of time at school even now learning about this period of history, they even have a name for the process: Vergangenheitsbew?ltigung (won't let me post Wiki link to it, so you might need to google). That seems like a good idea, i guess South Africans had their Truth and Reconciliation commmission too.

Thanks both! Yep, slabs. The patio will be surrounded by grass/lawn, so I suppose I ought to reinforce it somehow.

I'm about to lay a patio, having broken concrete etc. in preparation the past few week-ends. Question: when I dig up where I'm going to put and compact the hardcore, do I need to put a wooden "frame" to hold the hardcore or would the "walls" of the hole provide sufficient containment. Does that question even make sense. I have soft programmer fingers.

And no - I don't think this is indicative of anything in particular other than the importance of taking a break from reading the comments below the line and Twitter from time to time.