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In South London press/Southwark News In various shop windows in Bellenden village and surrounding shops even in local pubs. Banners as mentioned in prominent positions all around not in back waters and roads with flowing traffic Local Cllrs actually making an effort to promote. There has been a deafening silence from all Lane Cllrs. Again apart those who will have been informed in a limited way by Southwark I suspect would be members of Peckham Vision. There used to be Bellenden Residents group many years ago but that seems to have died a death. As I and others suspect it will be decided on those in the loop in organisations like above who have members who have to change what is a well tested system that works. Media responses from those who have no connection to the area but want to turn the area back to fields for a more green way of life. Southwark loves email responses with no resident confirmation if real. Change is alway welcome and the area has benefited from the new influx but common sense seems to have been lost in favour of over the top Heath and safety for no apparent reason. We still have pavements, crossings and traffic islands which will be replaced with the same plus months of disruption. If it was an accident black spot something would have to change. It is not. Lack of participation and advertising from the Labour Cllrs speaks volumes What I cannot understand is why they want to change a free flowing system to a 2 way system, what is different to the mass of traffic when it is done. You still have mass traffic and then have two sets of traffic to view which will make crossing more difficult and congestion at all the junctions

Where was this advertised? Again first I have heard just like the first 2. Unfortunately I have other commitments. It is a joke

Again no where I go in the course of a day. How many people do?

gm99 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > For those claiming to live in the area affected > but not to have known about the consultation: > there's a large banner on the railings of Warwick > Gardens opposite Holly Grove, which has been there > since before Christmas. Although I live in the area I have had no reason for the last month to pass or go up or down Lydnhurst Way passed Warwick Gardens, so no I have not seen this banner. This also nay apply to others

Why when they redesigned this junction not so long ago this was not thought of. I don't think Southwark has a clue. Univ grads with no local experience only paper theory. Would not be surprised to learn they are employed on how cheap they are or have managed to answer the pc employment questions correctly.

Is it great for cyclists? as the intention is for two way traffic they still have to use the same road now with less space. Also there will be a greater number of junctions unlike free flowing traffic all round as now. Pedestrians can and always have been able to walk in safety, and there is no problem accessing the existing green spaces. Why can common sense not prevail over a hidden political agenda. Ill thought out 20mph on all roads for instance As has been pointed out it is a tried and tested route.Perhaps it is the thought of free money that has clouded Southwark thought pattern in this. Please leave as is No benefit at all. Please leave alone

If the pub has to go hope the coffee shop will have to go as well that will take it back to how it was Thank god I gave up commuting long ago. You have my sympathy.

Its been a social hub long before the commuting new arrivals turned up, If you dont like it find another mode of travel. It also serves a rest point for those people who have spent a tiring time at the hospital

How about getting rid of the coffee shop? People always went thru there in the past. The pub has been there before many of todays commuters turned up on the scene.

This should have been picked up on the pre-assignment questionnaire. If you have never received a S20 the max you would have to pay per property is ?250 If you bought with the previous owner aware then solicitor is liable as it should have been declared

Parkdrive Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If you got in the face of the boys in blue in the > early 70's especially in or around the carter > street police station after a night in the Temple > Bar or Beehive, it would result in you being on > the wrong end of a clump. I remember those happy days, difference then to now if you were told to stop you did, get lippy you got a clump.

Think this confirms don't buy Council stock.

Would the Council have advertised this victory or work on the basis that if you don't know you won't challenge. How many people in the same block pay responsive repairs not knowing a neighbour has challenged and won.

Why. What have I missed over the last 50 years. Bleak, dank and dirty

It would make sense if you and Cllr Smith spoke to each other. No wonder things don't get done

Because I would like to see the ugly concrete pillboxes that front and surround the station pulled down and have a pleasant usable space in their place instead of the dirty dank space that is there. The whole space from the station to Bellenden road should be razed and developed for the use of all. You could even have a Dutch style cycle park for comuters instead of row upon row of car repair units and a scrap yard. It could be the starting point for the railway walk. How pleasant that would be.

Good they will be clearing it. I look forward to a clean and open square. They could always include a small museum to loose hair and rubbish.

Blenheim Grove, station way, does that mean we are stuck with the ugly concrete block houses instead of a fully open square?

Well that's probably secured a grant for the next few years to keep them happy. Beats doing a proper job

"A ?700k Southwark Council fund to deploy physical measures on the most blatant areas of people speeding greater than 20mph will be used soon. But ?700k will result in very few physically measures." For what and where?

Actually no.

That was why pavements were invented. If people used their brains and applied common sense which is sadly lacking there would be no problem.

471 people responded. 40% of those contacted The number of people contacted is woeful. Are these responses from 471 individual people at 471 separate address's or just email responses where any amount of views can be given from separate email address from a very few number of homes. Green pressure groups come into their own with surveys like this and do not represent what most people see only what they want. Southwark love to use percentages because they can hid a very poor response rate to back the decision they want to enact. C.C meetings are just a cover to push through what ever they want. I live in the area and received no contact at all.

As for a full itemised breakdown of all repairs. As a leaseholder you are required in your case if a two flat property to contribute 50% of all responsive and structural repair costs. Downside of a Council leasehold property

Townleygreen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What about the main argument, mako? > > 1 We are due to have 2 million more people in this > city of ours in the next 10-15 years or so. That's > a 25% increase. What's that going to do to your > precious car driving experience then, if we do > nothing, mako? > > 2 The pollution. more than 9,000 people die each > year from breathing in the polluted air produced > by your precious cars, dear mako. > > Add those two together. Now do you fancy your > future and that of your children. > > Just try to face the facts, your current car basedj > lifestyle is leading nowhere. Posted by Townleygreen September 19, 08:19AM I like Lidl but if I'm doing a largeish shop with a car, I can never get everything I want there! It's then a pain to go somewhere else for the last few bits