Alan Dale

James Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think you are being prejudiced by assuming that > working-class parents are ignorant & law-breaking > by not using child seats! See, I can play your > silly little game as well. Please be careful not to attribute assumptions to me that I have not made. In particular 'the fact that the baby was in a car seat may also imply more middle class parenting than you are assuming' does not equate to 'working-class parents are ignorant & law-breaking by not using child seats'. That said you did have honourable intentions in defending Lilly from the onslaught so some credit should be given for that. As regards the idea that people are showing off about how enlightened and PC they are then I prefer to see it as people highlighting prejudice in the views expressed that the holder of the view seems oblivious to. Do you not agree that you made a large number of assumptions about the incident that were actually pure conjecture?

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > God does everything have to boild down to class > prejudice? sheesh. I think most people are making > a point about the world of terror, and ignorance > we live in, fostered and nursed by a ruthless > gov't and a feral press, to quote my political > hero TB, god rest his soul (in hell). God does everything have to boil down to Tony Blair and the ferral press? Sheesh- some people are trying to wage a class war for control of South East London you know.

Asset Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It was me being a wimp. Ballsy of you to own up! Road to Damascus conversion. I've corrected my mistake.

> Asset Wrote: (BTW before anyone kicks off my tongue is my cheek.) I think you make a valid point- no need to be a wimp about it. > *Bob* Wrote: I too am filled with shock and horror at parents these days. They regularly exceed the speed limit with a child in the back. They don't have smoke alarms fitted, or haven't checked them for years. They let their kids play in the sun without sun cream on. They smoke around them. They drink too much. Occasionally they'll have a few drinks on a family day out and then drive them home. They feed them crap food. They let them cycle in London. They keep dogs at home. They don't service their boilers and the electrics in their houses are 30 years old. They let them watch adult TV all day and play violent computer games. They make them go to church, let them play physical sports and leave matches in accessible drawers (contrary to the advice of 'Welephant') Nice one *Bob*. It seems you have condensed the entire ED forum for the last three weeks into a single user friendly paragraph. Good dog and god jibes in there too. Full marks.

Interesting prejudice James. Whilst it is not clear cut I can see why you think Lilly might be middle class as she's using this blog, she 'popped' into Tesco and said 'hubby' instead of husband. Seeing as it was Tesco though then that may imply that she's lower middle class. What I am confused about is why you think the child's parents are chavs. All we hear about them is that they shop in Tesco and they can be easliy distracted by fighting youths. Are you saying that middle class people would have fled at the first sign of trouble? I'm not so sure. Furthermore Tesco is not a particularly chavvy supermarket and the fact that the baby was in a car seat may also imply more middle class parenting than you are assuming. What do you think? Did I miss something in the prose or do you know something I don't? If not then I think your prejudice is clouding your judgement.

We do. Lordship Lane is the new Upper Street.

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Mogs Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have a cousin whose name is Emma and she nearly > married a Mr. Dale Broke my heart. I should never have given her the 'me or the dog' ultimatum.

Mogs Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't really mind being a Dunn - and I did think > about being a Morgan Dunn (which made me sound > like a credit card) > > So I just stuck with Morgan - A good Welsh surname > lol You said you intend to name your first child Morgan Dunn. Why is it ok for their name to sound like a credit card but not yours?

Back from the pub then admin?! Great achievement. CWALD. Keep us posted as to your progress. What will your handle be when you are a fully qualified solicitor I wonder?

This should have been lounged ages ago and not given Hugo the opportunity to steal my thunder as villain of the thread. Assuming we are now in the lounge then - Chavwivalawdegree - did you get a training contract?

The British airmen? Thanks again for all the horse related responses. I shall look be looking into buying some horse action for a loved one in the not too distant future. I'll report back when I do.

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I just heard that my mate's dog died of a stroke. He got upset when I asked him how hard he stroked it.

Is there anywhere around here where you can just turn up and they provide everything you need to go horseriding? (A stables perhaps?) Assuming the rider is good enough to ride without instruction then how much does it cost for a ride? What about lessons - how much do they cost?

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Dick van Dyke in My Fair Lady? Completely silent. I now see why people try to avoid having their threads lounged.

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Cant agree with you on the nurse v commodity > trader. The former would exist if the later never > did. > Seeing as we've been lounged we can explore this tangent you offered earlier. The fact that the existence of nurses is not an implication from the existence of commodities traders is of no consequence to their relative merits. Furthermore if you are saying that because the existence of nurses predates the existence of traders then they are therefore more important then again that is a fallacy. Given the example of an individual who has all of the prerequisite skills to be either a successful nurse or a successful commodities trader then I would argue that it is of more benefit to society if that person becomes a trader as there are fewer people who can fulfill that role and the role provides a greater economic benefit. Do you think that person should be a nurse and if so why?

You meant me?! How rude. Current guise? Please elaborate...

A slowdown, a crash or widespread acceptance of the fact that in future only rich people will be able to afford the luxury of homeownership...

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Overdue. Standards are slipping round here.

MadWorld74 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Alas! SeanMacGabhann I guess we will never be > drinking buddies, me being a Foxtons loathing > tenant...and all that. I think you've got it the wrong way round. I read it as being that Sean is happy to drink with you as long as you don't buy a house. Is that right Sean?