Jah Lush is right. They were nasty as well as "friendly/casual" punch-ups. Remember being in the Uplands Xmas Eve 1975, relatively early in the evening it all kicked off and glass thrown about and knives pulled out. Next thing, a handful of cops from across the road came in, truncheons out and meted out instant justice. We left and went home to watch Queen in concert on the box !! Louisa, would that be Ted the chap that run the veg stall on Northcross Road that you speak of?