Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > srisky Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Not sure how you have got yourself worked up > over this. At no point did I say that it was only > the > > fault of men, just because someone states a > phrase is sexist against women doesn't mean that > they are > > anti-men and of course feminism is/ought to be > about equality. > > > > ETA: objectification of women is seen throughout > the English language, it's not a new concept. > > But surely you can see that, if a group of people > creates a term that objectifies themselves, then > surely the blame for this lies squarely with them > and them only? Not really. According to the politics of oppression, if you can get a group to police themselves you can sit back and enjoy the pay-offs, rewarding them for compliance and if they complain blaming them for oppressing themselves.