Tony.London Suburbs

taper Wrote: Google "inter-racial-marriages, 75%". It is the second link down. I won't open the link, nor paste from it. I don't want to pollute this site. To give you the benefit of the doubt, which I really do NOT think you deserve thats the biggest load of rubbish I've heard for many a long day! So you have intrepreted MY "75%" figure that I wrongly gave for BRITISH Mixed-Raced children being in BRITISH CARE/FOSTER HOMES as tthe following: On a Site called "The Truth At Last" Firstly who the hell are they?? NOT it would appear to be "Stormfront" as you said it goes on to say that the divorce rate of Mixed-Raced Couples is 75% in THE USA !! So: 1/ You have got the wrong Site so NO-ONE apart from you ( you said) was looking at Stormfront at all, at any time. 2/ I was referring to Mixed-Raced Children as YOU were referring to a figure giving DIVORCE rates 3/ I was referring to The UK and YOU take that text from THE USA!! Stick to the day job Miss Marples....

Sherwick Wrote: Your figures aren't 'guestimates'. They are completely MADE-UP, i.e. FABRICATED, in order to SUIT YOUR AGENDA. My Agenda? My Agenda is what? For others NOT to enjoy Mixed-Raced Relationships which I have enjoyed for 25 years now...lol p.s taper is in a wondrous situation, for only knows if he is lying as only he has looked at that Site and seen the "75%" wholly inaccurate figure there. Of course if he is NOT lying he WILL eventually, after a tease or two, produce those figures. However if disgustingly he is lying and uses whatever lame excuses NOT to show them then this reflects terribly on YOU SHERWICK and HUGUENOT and others who were only too willing and prepared to jump onto the Racist/Fascist bandwagon. The truth is, apart, from the tired and lazy old "he/she's a racist" you can not combat the harsh reality that many indigenous English people or Brits do NOT like to see their Culture diluted, replaced or even destroyed in increasing parts of Britain! Anyway lets see what taper brings forth .. All we have established thus far is that taper looks at the Stormfront Site...:)

Sherwick Wrote: You've got a nerve calling anyone else SHAMEFUL, I can tell yoU! Empty rhetoric, as always Sherwick. I have ILLUSTRATED where taper could, potentially, be guilty of shameful behaviour. Now show me where I have been guilty of the same. I have readily admitted that "75%" was wildly inaccurate. I also said that 99% of people that fought from Britain in those 2 World Wars were "White/British" which is correct. I know there were hundreds of thousands of "Allied" Troops deaths and millions of deaths globally but I was referring to British deaths. There were 1.3 Million Military and Civilian British Deaths in World War 1 and World War 2, so NOT "millions" agreed. Hardly "shameful" that my guessitimate was inaccurate and, of course, a happy DEFLECTION , away from the figures that taper insisted he saw and that he has, shamefully, failed to produce.

taper Wrote: Google "inter-racial-marriages, stormfront" and you'll find it. i'm not linking to that filth. SHAMEFUL...TRULY SHAMEFUL taper. You do not need to provide any link to that filth at all. Just cut 'n paste the offending lines to proove you did not invent this and lie about the whole thing. Thats ALL you have to do taper.

taper: I've already prooved that you totally, deliberately, misinterpreted something I had written earlier which was scandalous. This, potentially, is much worse it that you have CLEARLY stated that I must view Stormfront ( which I don't) in order to cast that slime that Sean often refers to. As my "75%" figure was wildly inaccurate, as opposed to the correct figure of 8%/9% then you said that I must have got that crazy figure from there as you have seen it on there. Simply cut 'n paste the offending line(s) on there so the World can see that it WAS there and you did not invent it and lie, which I'm beginning to heavily suspect. Obviously if you did lie (with all its implications) then that not only covers you in that slime but also a large dollop would fall on Huguenot, Sherwick et al who, not only, believed you but were only too pleased to make comments, thereafter, accordingly including Sherwick's "I suspected etc..".. WOULDN'T IT E THE MOST ENORMOUS GIGGLE IF YOU WERE LYING!! Anyway, there are many on here who are not exactly slow in coming forward to provide Quotes or Stats to proove or disproove something so if any of these Guys would like to provide and cut 'n paste this erroneous figure from Stormfront that taper has DEFINTELY seen then please go ahead and do so. A DEAFENING silence might ensue here as taper, remarkably, will find himself "too busy" to re-produce that figure from Stormfront. Over to you taper.

A mystery.

We need a new Messiah, for sure.

Actually taper, I have just examined further something that I wrote and you intrepreted earlier on this very thread. It seems you might have a bit of "previous".... I wrote: "99% of them were White/British, which was representative of British Society then. " I was correctly stating that during The Last 2 World Wars (the Subject matter) that 99% of the people fighting from Britain were White, which, as I correctly said, was "representative of British Society then". I'm sure no-one would argue that was the case back in the Early and Mid 20th Century. YOU intrepreted and QUOTED me as saying: "99% of the people who died in the last wars were white British fighting FOR THE WHITE BRITISH PEOPLE" and then to ridicule something that you invented that I never said you added... "It's just not true. The Axis powers were fighting for notions of racial purity. But not us. Read Churchills's speeches and tell me where he talks about fighting for the "white British people" You are informing me that "something is not true" that YOU said and falsely attributed to me ! Then you want me to "tell" you something that YOU invented in the first place and even asked where "Churchill talks about fighting for the "white british people"..a phrase that YOU invented and you have written it as if you are quoting me when I never said that... For the record YOU wrote that phrase NOT me! So far to say I'm not impressed is an understatement but, at least, redeem yourself, partially, by showing us all that Stormfront quote that you have definitely seen on their Site please.

Sherwick Wrote: .. it was a fact that huge majority of afro-carribean people coming to the UK in the 1960s were in their 20s - therefore when they came here they were at exactly the right age to have children, which is what they did. The cohort of whites though included all whites in the UK, and therefore, of all age groups. The cohort of afro-carribeans also included all ACs in the UK, but a very high percentage of the total cohort were in their 20s. This was the only reason why the birth rates differed (and this was proven by isolating whites in the same age-group)! YOU have introduced the Subject of Black Birth-Rates and in this case your comments make sense, in respect of 1960's Britain. As this Site is for Fun we will leave it there.

Huguenot: Now we KNOW, officially, that there are THREE TIMES more Mixed-Raced children in The UK in Foster/Care Homes compared with the proportion of their numbers then why is this do you think? p.s I DID ask you why there were more before but as we now have the definitive answer then why is this?

taper Wrote: "I've read several times b4 ( This time I do not recall where) that 75% of Mixed-Raced Partnerships fail" The only source I found for that statistic was Stormfront (is that where you got your care data?). As YOU are the only one who has seen this on "Stormfront", kindly return to that Site and Cut 'n Paste where they say about the 75% Figure. The reason I'm asking is to make sure you are not lying to discredit me as you have said I must have seen the same thing and got responses from the ususl suspects on the basis that you are telling the truth that that figure is there. Obviuosly you can't lie and say I've seen something that you invented, so please show me where it is on their Site. This will be easy as you have already located it. Secondly you and everybody else have, VERY conveniently, skipped over the findings to show that I was right that Mixed-Raced children are nearly THREE TIMES more present in Foster/Care Homes than the proportion of their numbers. Funny how no-one has tried to explain why that is!

Huguenot Wrote: Answer what TLS? Why your made-up figures are true? Grow up. ..I don't need to quote you. So you can't answer the question and you can't find any of my quotes... Even by your gargantuan standards that is impressive Hugs. Amongst your many revolting assertions: that WWII was fought by white British to protect white British blood, tls:I asked how many who died would be happy with the way the UK has gone. that London was a better place before immigrants arrived tls: never said that at all...SHOW me where I said that and stop lying Huguenot, where did I say that? .. that immigrants don't want to mix with the locals tls:Many would rather have as little to do with the indigenous populationas possible, which is why I am, invariably, the only White friend many of my "immigrant" friends have got. .. that immigrants don't want to be British tls: "some" immigrants do not. I said its how they "view themselves" that is important. .. that racial integration can't happen, tls:Can't?? Can't?? It does successfully in many places...sigh.. that mixed race kids are rejects tls: If thats the way YOU want to intrepret them as "rejects" well so be it but I'm sure anyone in The Industry will tell you that they are the largest Racial Grouping in Foster/Care Homes in The UK. This may be unpalatable to your vision but its a fact, I'm afraid. Other than that you are spot on! Le Joker:)) p.s For the umpteenth time its NOT, REPEAT NOT, about "colour" but the loss of "Culture" that is bemoaned...

HonaloochieB Wrote: ..It was me alright and what's more it's got the free mask as well. Sweeeet. Oooh! I DO like a Man who makes me laugh! ROFLMAO..:)-D

HonaloochieB Wrote: ...raising a copy of Brain Capers. 'ere you nicked my copy of that??? Its bleedin' gorn... If it was you then Death May Be Your Santa Claus, Hoochie...:X

woofmarkthedog Wrote: Who are Mott the Hoople though Band I saw in 1971 at The Surrey Rooms, The Oval. I was there Hoochie. Have to say I don't remember you there, though.

Huguenot Wrote: Let's be honest: 100% of all partnerships end in failure or death. Yoo're on that stuff again, aren't you Hugsy?(tu) All remaining Partnerships DO end in death! Well detected, Sherlock! Huguenot: Since most of us go through more than 3 relationships before marriage, and 50% of all marriages end in divorce, the he 'failure' rate of all relationships must by definition be higher than 75%. QED mixed race partnerships (by your weird stat) ....are better than same race. I take it Maths is not your forte then..lol... For example supposing every single, SAY, Norwegian and Malaysian stayed together in The UK and NONE from that combination ever broke up, that would make a nonsense of what you have just written. I know I'm going to regret asking this, and I won't get a straight answer, if one at all, but ( "if" I'm correct--thats your excuse for avoiding the question(!) ) but humour me, IF I AM correct how does this explain that there are more Mixed-Raced Children in care in The UK than any other Grouping as, and NOW I AM guessing, only around 15% of all children are from Mixed-Raced Partnerships in The UK ?? Please answer that Huguenot, just for once. Huguenot: The thing about your comments Tony, is they're all about race race race, and they're all nasty nasty nasty, and when you can't use the truth you just make stuff up. The comments on a thread involving "race" are, indeed, about "race". If the thread is about a Festival then my comments will be about Festivals, etc..you'll pick it up along the way, don't worry.... There are a myriad personal comments that I could make about you Huguenot but I will desist. p.s. Show me which of the thousands of words that I have used on this Subject can be interpreted as "nasty x 3"?? Support your comment with some of my quotes. There's enough to choose from on this Subject.

Jeremy Wrote: Tony.London Suburbs Wrote: I've read several times b4 ( This time I do not recall where) that 75% of Mixed-Raced Partnerships fail, I'm afraid. Let's hope that myself, Sherwick, and also you manage to buck this trend, Tony! This is "Take 3" over the last 6 years with the Lady who currently lives here and we are definitely understanding each other better now! Just takes time, I mean when she threw the heavy Sky Remote Control and missed my eye by a Quarter of an inch in the old days I thought she was being a typically "stereotypical" aggressive Jamaican Woman, that I had read about, but I've come to realise it was either a sign of affection or maybe that she does not like to be interrupted while watching "Eastenders"...:))

As Max Boyce would say " I WAS THERE!"...>:D

citizenED Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't think we need to have a crime section. > Admin should just delete every thread that reports > a crime or any other allegation of suspicious > activity. Great idea but I would go further than that. The current news story about those 100 Old Ladies from South London and Surrey who were burgled ( some of whom were raped) over the last 20 years should not have wasted the time of The Police and even bothered to report it. They should just take it that this is a sign of the times and stop moaning about it and move on. Its not, as if, The Police have caught the suspect after, nearly, 20 years anyway.

Sherwick Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just wondering, as far as 'evolution' is concerned, isn't it 'better' to mix genes with different races? > I seem to recall reading about this. As far as I am concerned, it won't be a surprise to Tony but I've barely ever had a partner in the past from my own race or culture - however this wasn't planned by me - it's just the way it turned > out. My wife is also not from my race or culture and we get on great! :)) The vast majority of my extended family also do > not have partners from their own race or culture. However, whilst we are in the main of different > races and religions and born in different continents, what we do share is a strong identiy with liberal & democratic values (note: not necessarily Western ones). Then you have turned the perfect "theory" into "practice" and thats great for your own Family. However, lets not pretend its easy. There are more Mixed-Raced children in Foster Homes throughout The UK than Black children with White children coming a distant third. I've read several times b4 ( This time I do not recall where) that 75% of Mixed-Raced Partnerships fail, I'm afraid. The Foster Homes/In Care Stats are quite a staggering when you consider the "proportion" of Mixed-Raced children in UK Society, as a whole.

Right On My Man! Makes a mental note to read "The Road To Wigan Pier" ...

None available from my personal Harem, themaninblack but there are lovely Ladies all around London Town so go forth. There could be a Lady thats just right for you just around the corner...

Ted Max Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Meeting ethnics down the pub, at work, the doctor's or some other commercial situation doesn't count. You have to be giving them one. If they happen to be your cleaner - score double. Ted just read Jeremys post @ 10.11 AM.

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tony, what's with the "other than work" clause? Lots of people meet friends (and even partners) through work! Firstly I agree with almost every word you have just written. Show Maxie some time if you see him.:) That clause? Because its tooo easy as its much harder to SEEK friends from other Cultures/Races. I'm still in contact with many Guys from my Lewisham/Southwark Council stints during the 90's because we choose to remain in touch. The "test" comes AFTER one party has left their mutual workplace Jeremy.

gallinello Wrote: ... in the NUM and mining communities. We all gave what we could, because we believed that an injury to one section of our class was an injury to all of us! gallinello : I'm being genuine here M8. This is why I will always like and enjoy the company of people like yourself. Guys who GENUINELY who have big heart who are compassionate and care for the wider Community. If I lived near you I would have done the same. The Left sympathisers are, in many ways, much nicer people than Right-Wingers and certainly less selfish. In most cases I would suggest. (at this point I admit I would even, almost certainly, like that damn pain-in-the-arse Sean as well though we would irritate each other, no end. Its just that, as you know, two sides to every dispute. gallinello: Tony, you were a miner and a printer? My god, what a popular character you must have been during all these bitter, class struggles. What with your forward-thinking, progressive views 'n' all! tls: I was neither galli. I worked In Fleet Street and Bouverie Street ( opposite The Sun) for The National Coal Board. I wasn't a Miner but a White-Collar worker in the financial side of the Industry. They de-centralised the White Collar workers to Sheffield/Donny and Nottingham.