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A new baby is on its way in early summer for the couple Congratulations to them. Boy or girl ?

3/10 Must try harder.

Great. Is this the end of this thread then (please) Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 🙏🏻😀

I?m definitely ?working from home? more. Client ?Shall we meet in town?? Me ?No, let?s Skype shall we?

TheArtfulDogger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I was a "fluffer" on a film set in Soho in the 70s > > > I still gag at the memory Was that before or after your job at Southwark Council?

I work closely with the restaurant industry, and this restriction is worrying as there?s a 4.00 vacancies per 100 jobs in the industry, compared to 2.6 for the wider economy. ?Low skill? doesn?t account for ability and aptitude. At Pret A Manger they get 1 in 50 applications by British people and 65% of their work force are from EU countries. It?s going to impact business badly. Being told to up staff retention and bring in automation (the governments helpful advice) isn?t the answer. I have this vision of the restaurant industry looking like a Homebase store, with senior citizens working as waiters and baristas. God help us, it?s all a bit Dad?s Army.

Hard Brexit seems to be the poison of choice for this government https://apple.news/AJaz8t_SBT5u6F1BQQ2vq0A

Best of luck Jules Health first is a good thing

Signora ? Where?s that?

pk Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > keano77 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I?ve been dipping in and out of the Guardian?s > > coverage of the address to the EU Parliament. > > > > Understandably there?s a lot of bluff and > bluster > > going on as the EU squares up for what will be > > difficult trade talks ahead. > > > > One thing that is already apparent is that > Michel > > Barnier will not have such an easy ride as he > did > > with the Brexit negotiations where there was EU > > unanimity as to the integrity of the union. > > > > Individual EU countries are already making > demands > > on him to protect their vested interests - > > preserving the status quo for fishing rights > for > > France, Belgium, Ireland and the Netherlands > for > > example. > > > > Barnier will have to balance competing EU > > interests, provide a deal with fewer benefits > of > > full membership, try to tie the U.K. to EU > rules > > and maintain a level playing field. > > > > A poisoned chalice indeed. > > Sounds like we?ll have to suck up most of the > current rules then, or go no deal No deal? Don?t you mean ?An Australia deal? 🧐🤥

Blah Blah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Reports today that No.10 are looking into the > logistics of building an actual physical bridge > between Scotland and NI. What is it with Johnson > and bridges? Remember his plans for a garden bridge. And whatever happened to ?Boris Island? airport off of the Isle of Sheppey? Johnson is consistent, I give him that.

Ok, if I were being compared to a politician, I?d go for Rory Stewart I?d be less happy with anyone else.

uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sephiroth Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Glen > > I?m don?t live anywhere inside the m25 > > My local mp is a hardcore ERG > > > > And your list is bobbins > > > > > http://ilovetheeu.co.uk/trade/no-the-eu-does-not-f > > > und-companies-to-move-jobs-out-of-the-uk/ > > this is the East Dulwich forum...a bandwagon for > George Monbiot's brainwashed minions As opposed to what UG What you reading? Brietbart?s 15 hot white fashion looks for Melania Trump on Labour Day ?

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well I'm always in by 1:00 AM so all the > drunkeness and debauchery must happen after I go > :). I did spend my teenage years on Swansea's > Wind St mind which is one of those they always > show in the papers on January 1st. In all these years JohnL I didn?t realise you were a ?foreigner? living amongst us. Once Cummming?s convinces Boris that the lines on the old map between Angerland and Whales were once in fact ?Trenches? you?ll be deported back to the old colony. Keep your wits about and your head down John, there?s dark days ahead.

In the bigger picture, in this incidence or anything else so far, is anyone proud the actions of, or behind this government so far? Streatham Climate summit The press story Appointments or candidates The clarity and quality of information coming out of no 10? I?m curious to see if this is what you think you voted for, and is it pushing your buttons? Not in the ?oh great, at least XXX isn?t in position on this one? Are we in a ?yes, this is what we want and more of it!? moment ? Personally, I?m trying to reach across the divide and see what it might be like on the other side, but hand on heart, I?m really struggling.

The fish thing is ?red herring? in that it personifies the ?take control of our blah blah? perfectly, with factions getting all territorial and huffing and blowing, about how ridiculous it is. But it?s 0.1% of our economy. Figure it from there.

Oh dear, UncleGlen is a #typonazi I wrote ?remainders? instead of ?remainers?. Actually it was autocorrect that did it, but I accept responsibility. Shame there?s not an autocorrect option on UG and his horrid views, it?d make life much nicer. Remember the days when you had a control panel that stopped you seeing certain posts on the EDF, sadly no more. They are the good old days, back when we were in the bosom of the EU. It?s hard looking back sometimes, to a rosier time, when the architect of Brexit and future PM DC had his cock in a pigs face. And Boris was shagging willy nilly whoever as London Mayor. I?m sure both of them had the EU in their thoughts constantly back then.

In game play terms, turning leavers against remainders was a great strategy. One it gave BJ his surge to get a majority in Parliament, thus empowering him to carry out his worst. Secondly, it stopped enough people thinking about what they were about to actually loose, beyond the vote and the election. But now, oh yeah! We?re all losers, and a division is set into the country. Divide and rule, writ large! Then we have a serial liar as PM to go out and forge ?deep and meaningful trade relationships? on our behalf. A man with a proven track record of being a scheming lying untrustworthy human being, with a rep for disregarding anything he fancies to pomp up his own reputation. At a moment when you need trust, we?re set to have the least trustworthy team negotiate our future. Right!

I wonder if the clever pig ever met David Cameron?

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No 10 now claiming there is an "Inner Lobby" but > no-one has ever heard of it before. > > Maybe it was a secret. There is no ?totally unacceptable? to this lot Really, nothing is off limits. Like Trump, only shitting on our political landscape Leavers won?t condemn it, because it condemns the project.

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I predict this thread could go on for years. > Getting Brexit done is only just starting in spite > of what some of the press and politicians might > like you to believe. Exactly Alan, much like the years and years of to and fro of the EEC / EU project we?ve historically had. I?ll go to on to stick my neck out say expect another 47 years of pretty much the same. #*^%*t will never be ?done?

Let?s put leave and remain voters to one side for a moment, and consider what we collectively no longer have. Freedom of movement and travel, ease of trade Europe, a greatly reduced status in Europe and the world (I don?t think once on my business travels in Europe or abroad in general, have I had someone say ?well done to the U.K? or anything like that. People are puzzled or curious, but often in a ?why would you do that?? kind of way. But it?s not that I feel we?re disliked, there?s a great fondness for us as a country, a people, but people do seem saddened by the whole thing. I find myself making excuses and explaining how I personally voted, rather than feeling I can or want to stand up for the country collectively. We?re viewed as odd now, like we?ve taken leave of our senses. And Johnson and Trump are lumped together in the same conversation, the same disregard, and with the same distain often. I meet Americans who often are embarrassed by their leader, and apologies. Sadly I?m finding myself doing the same thing. I don?t like it. The cost of the years of EU membership has in effect doubled, given the costs to us as a country since the 2016 vote. So arguments around economic benefits are diluted, it?s damaging our economy, devaluation and QE continue. And I wonder what freedom to make our own laws really means, because one EU law will be replaced with another law, it?s not as if we?re going to have a more lawless system. If we think faceless unelected Eurocrats are going to be out of our lives, then watch out for our very own home grown versions, I doubt there?ll be any less governing, whoever gets to do it. I?m wary too of putting faith in people who have knowingly and blatantly manipulated, twisted and turned the truth for their own ends, only to be expected to take what they offer as the vision of the future as good. A group of people who call themselves ?The People?s Government? but who are jarringly less like ?the people? they claim to represent. If getting rid of being run by the ?elite? was part of this exercise, then it?s failed, as this group who now run the country and are making moves on our futures, armed with our supposed ?mandate for change? are themselves the ?elite? hidden in plain view. So of what the future holds? We don?t know, but truth vs spin and economic use, or distortion of facts will continue to cause unease, continue the suspicion, continue to divide and corrode society. It has through history been so, and runs through America right now. Look at the corruption of the senate, the bulldozing of the event around the impeachment trial of DT. Through the lens of history it?ll be seen as pivotal. But in the here and now, it castrates the value of truth, over the will of the people that hold that power. The will to turn a blind eye, to wilfully hide the truth, to extract a desire for power, and wield that power for their own good, their own ends. A society that cautions, mindfully holds a mirror to that, else we?re shadowed and fanned by such behaviour, is what I think we hope for. But that takes faith in it?s leaders, and that faith for a great many is lacking.

Why two threads ?

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Alexa just told me that today is Backward Day. > > Happy Backward Day Everybody. Backward is the new going forward. Happy Backward day to you too JohnL Thanks Alexa.

Here we go, Boris and his government making good on their getting stuff done mantra. They?re taking back control control. No more Brussels telling us what to do, nope! We?re perfectly capable of taking something good and fcuking up for ourselves, and this proves the point. Of course by the time we get to even discuss this it?ll be Friday, where come rain or shine (we?re getting rain on Friday btw) we leave the EU and this story will get drowned out. If anyone can argue this is a progressive step, then I?m all ears. A little glimpse of the future re travel to Europe. Post December 31st we go backwards, to more red tape, increased travel costs and a backward step in communications. https://apple.news/ASXxspjgXQ4qcUWWHkpdvKQ One day before the UK leaves the European Union, the government has revealed that British holidaymakers and business travellers to the EU face onerous changes when the transition agreement expires on 31 December. Many aspects of travel were previously uncertain, but it appears that the government has already made up its mind that, for visitors to the remaining 27 European Union countries, it will be a hard Brexit. For the remainder of 2020, no rules on travel will change. But once the transition ends, visitors to Europe will face much more red tape and expense than the travel industry had previously hoped. The new online advice says the guarantee of free mobile phone roaming throughout the EU will end. Motorists will need a "green card" - a certificate extending their travel insurance to Europe