I think SMG the degree of defensiveness; especially from my part, was due to the fact that I knew I would have had whatever I said shot down/dragged over the analysing coals from the get go. I put out threads and replied in a defensive way largely due to the fact that I realised I wasn't going to get a very equally matched debate. You realised it too, hence your comment yesterday about being 'ganged up on'. If others like Monica and Citizen Ed had been in with me from the start I think the tone of my threads especially would have been very different. I fought my corner and yes, was openly defensive. I tried not to be, but it seemed like some had a bug bear they needed to vent on me personally, hence my reaction.