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Charles you are trolling and you know it. It's not funny, or even interesting. First you fail to even recognise that bikes and scooters are even motor vehicles, and now you seem to think it's ok for those vehicles to use public pathways. What do you think would be the consequences for the scooter rider if they had an accident (whether at fault or not) involving a cyclist or pedestrian? Any idea? Oh and here's what the law says on it..... Road Traffic Act 1988 Section 34 Prohibition of driving motor vehicles elsewhere than on roads (1) Subject to the provisions of this section, if without lawful authority a person drives a motor vehicle? (a) on to or upon any common land, moorland or land of any other description, not being land forming part of a road, or (b) on any road being a footpath or bridleway, he is guilty of an offence.

HappyFamily, prices can not keep rising forever faster than wages. That's the flaw in thinking that leads to bubbles. There's only so many multiples of a salary a price can be before no-one can afford it. The Bank of England has stated that interest will start to rise at the end of the year (let's remember those rates have been kept artificially low to help recovery from 2008). Interest will have a huge bearing on the property market, esp for first time buyers.

Charles, scooters and motorbikes ARE motor vehicles. That's why they pay road tax and require insurance. They shouldn't be on a pedestrian/ cycle path.

Clamping is illegal Artful, but if the car hasn't moved for a couple of days (which is how it sounds) then I don't think that will solve the problem.

I agree on the SNP. They also failed to deliver on promises that got them elected to Hollyrood. They are riding a wave off the back of the close reference vote, but that wave will subside. So I don't agree that Labour are dead in Scotland at all. Cameron knew exactly what he was doing post the referendum election, because after all, the Conservatives had no ground to lose in Scotland. He's now paying the price. The hunting ammendment is only the start of defeats in Parliament for him.

That seems daft. Where's the common sense there? The Police ARE allowed to be helpful. It's not all about chasing hardened crims. If you can get a few friends to lift the back end and wheel it forward out of the way, then why not? You are not damaging the car by doing that.

So you pimp yours? Something like this maybe? Or how about? Apparently this bloke already has his. But I suspect ths might be you Louisa after one too many sherries ;)

I agree with you ???? but that's not what people are saying (so they are not delusional). They are arguing for a clear alternative from the other major party (which Labour still are), that's all. Of course it risks leaving Labour out of power but they are never going to regain power anyway if they don't get those Scottish seats back.

Just watched a BBC show on iplayer with the above name. South Yorkshire is apparently the scooter capital of Europe! Issues like safety aside, are they really the alter ego of the twin buggy? Some people even race them.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-32247516 I did overtake one (on my cycle) at Elephant and Castle roundabout once and held my breath to see if he made it round in one piece. Apparently no rules on them not using roads.

https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives So up to three inches is legal it seems and up to 4 years in prison and ?5000 fine. That clearly isn't working if they now feel the need to bring in a mandatory 6 month sentence for a second offence. Wonder as well how this would apply to minors?

I think there is a minimum inch length to define what carrying a knife is. Basically anything longer than the smallest penknife I think. I too am a bit confused Fox. I thought the law was toughened up on knives years ago. Might have a little google :)

Very good point rahrah.

Vehicles can not be clamped on private land. The coalition changed the law, so no, you can't clamp it. If the vehicle is obstructing your access, I don't understand why the Police can't contact the owner for you.

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uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes the Tories listen...they have just put the cap > of ?72,000 on Social care on hold until 2020...if > that isn't listening to the people I don't know > what is. No, they listen to the people who vote for them. The tories have completely shunted young people on the other hand (having given up on gaining their votes no doubt). I'm torn on Corbyn. I think many of the points made about a viable opposition are true. I think he may be able to regain some of the ground in Scotland, and some of the core vote lost to UKIP. But I think Andy Burnham would probably be able to do that. But I also think those two would (depending on what happens with the economy) keep Labour out of government for 10 years. Left wing core values were alive during the Thatcher years (and the attack on the public sector was far worse then) but it didn't make Labour electable. For a swing away from the market economy we have now would take the same kind of disaster we saw in the 70s that led to the rise of the right. It's not going to happen. I think it was ???? who said that the right kind of government is one that believes in the free market economy but has some liberal and social values at it's core too. I think that's right. What I also think is right is that Labour in their poor opposition through Miliband, allowed the Tories to seize the popular debate and mislead the public on the extent of the 2008 crisis being Labours fault (it reminds me of Bush confusing Iraq with 9/11 funnily enough). At the time Miliband was elected leader I said to Labour party member friends of mine that he wasn't providing any opposition and couldn't understand why. They just gave me some vague answer about not revealing anything until the run up to the election (which was years away at the time). This is the kind of niaivity that seems to run through the Labour Party at the moment. The new leader needs to be able to effectively oppose from the off. They also need to be able to form policy and win the public debate. Corbyn perhaps has the best chance of doing that, but he might also divide the party and I suspect, election wise, he's preaching to the already converted, and that won't win a general election imo.

' debt forgiveness has been crucial to Germany's own post-WWII development path.' Yes quite. And the lack of debt forgiveness has kept other countries crippled, Africa, Latin America both have examples of what happens when there is no flexibiity.

They only live for a day or so I think.

I've found phones on two occasions and have been able to find a number on there saying 'home', or 'sister' etc and been able to return the phones to grateful owners. But I can also understand why people pin protect their phones too. Surely if the IME number is registered the police can trace the owner.

Isn't the rag bank in Peckham Rye Park for recycling? I put all our unresellable items there, and the ok stuff goes directly to charity shops.

That's very interesting uncleglen. And perhaps sheds some light on why Greece are a bit miffed. No suprise either that the superpowers then (as they do now) took it on themselves to speak for everyone. Osbourne btw has refused to pay a ?1bn contribution to the new bailout deal on the table.

I think you have a point Jeremy and what's clear is that this whole process with Greece has been messy. But the fact remains that if a country's banks fail, the country completely fails (the consequences of which are mass unemployment, homelessness and hunger) . It's why every nation in the world bailed out it's banks after the 2008 crash. We may resent what it cost us the tax payer, but there really was no alternative. It's a bit rich for any EU nation to be quibbling over the cost of saving Greece. Who enabled Europe's post war reconstruction? And how about the UK in 1976? When we ourselves had to go to the IMF. There are examples of comparatively much getter loans being made with much more realistic replayment terms and there's no reason why the same can't be achieved with Greece.

Huggers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Fence to right, looking out from back of property > is theirs, left is yours. This is certainly true for southwark property.

That's not quite true. Around 30% of the payment needed is to make the outstanding repayments. The rest is needed to prop up the banks, public services and pensions. The country is bankrupt. The banks are running out of money. When banks run out of money, cashflow is affected in every sector. Businesses have to lay people off, or worse still close. Everything stops. I think what needs to happen is that the EU needs to write off around a third of the bailout debt and set a repayment structure on the rest that doesn't strangle any chance of recovery by the Greek economy. And the Greek people themselves also have to accept that things have to change. They have to pay tax. They have to understand that economic recovery depends on them working longer for less and they need to be realistic about public expenditure. Pulling the plug on Greece is not an option just as Greece pulling the plug on membership of the EU is not an option for them either. I disagree on Merkel bob. Merkel only has to look to the history of her own country to know what happens when another country calls in loans. The USA did it after the Wall Street crash forcing the already delicate German economy to hand over a fifth of their gold and Reichsmarks. The following depression led to the rise of an extremism we all paid for in the end. I believe she is genuinely trying to save Greece from the abyss. The Greek government have been obstructive though. A sane government works for the best deal and then sells that to their people. Tsipras has played games. He won on a ticket of us vs them, but right now, them is the only thing keeping Greece going. The referendum was pure showmanship.