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I saw Robert Glenister, who plays Ash in "Hustle", walking along LL (just by Somerfield)this very morning. citizen

fair play to you Jo. you state your case concisely. I am sure there are many others who feel the same and were not prepared to say so - a private matter for them. Hopefully you will have got the ball rolling on the seemingly secular Forum. just to let it be known, we welcomed our little boy to the world with a humanist naming ceremony attended by atheists, agnostics, Christians, others and no doubt a few Don't Knows. The event was highly touching and enjoyed by all. Would have felt highly hypocritical to have him christened but wanted to mark his entry into the world with some sort of celebration

Not nice - what part of ED are you in Mumra? citizen

*flops onto lounger - takes sip of one of Keef's 'special' cocktails* *eye starts twitching* *gets out sketchpad; gets out pencils* *takes stock.....then starts scribbling*

I do - although it's not the closest to me, I go in when i can. I agree with you, sean they are lovely friendly people. So different from when i first went in there a few years back. citizen

*wonders what Mockney referring to* *he been sneaking look in my sketchbook?*

they even sell Art journals, only place round here that I know of - it's a fantastic establishment. pop over to Petitou for coffee after when you are down that way. citizen

Keef, if you're at the Rye you can pop in later, the Gowlett aint far! Oh, you don't mean there do you. citizen

*spies DM floating on cloud* *her winning Friday Project* *winks knowingly* *gathers Crunchie, Skittle Sours, Party Four in readiness for own humble friday project*

Perhaps your fair lady gossips with Nisha about you, Sean? citizen

I'll join in for Pram-Raiding. (some on this Forum definitly needs their heels bumping into for tetchy comments re baby buggies!)Have to say that McLarens rock - good choice, Asset. just has to be one of the best ?150 I've ever spent. Easy to fold/get on bus, lightweight, robust, brilliant manouvrability - (great for clipping the heels of grumpy people) and handy for carrying shopping! On the coffee shop front - is someone out there going to open up a nice coffee shop up at the Dulwich Library end of LL. You lot have got it so rich down there whilst us poor souls at this end on the Lane are gagging for a decent latte. citizen

*enters on all fours - in expectation that it's how i will exit* *joins in Big Hug with chums* *rrrrruummble - whoops - haven't eaten since, whenever* *notices some skittle sours on floor* *gets back on hands and knees*

*or you could borrow my project manager zapper*

*enters Quiet Room sheepishly* *raises eyebrow to BarryRoad - admiring Coffee and Matchstick cocktail* *sidles over to bar* *looks in mirror* *places head in hands...*

But that is exactly the point. Religion is a question of emotion/psychology - not philosophy. Bob's point about shooting down believers is spot on. Its all too easy. The real question is not whether the arguments of religion hold tight, as literally they do not, but whether the magical/mythical stories exert power for the good. The issue is whether religion has had, on balance, a positive influence on the world. On the one hand there is all the sectarian violence, the wars fought in the name of religion and the child-abusing priests etc but on the other you have all the religious charities and the personal salvation offered to many by religion. citizen

loved the programme and the houses. Does anyone know if Bill has sold the second house yet - and for how much? citizen (did anyone else notice the the retro New Romantic fringe sported by one of the architects)

*verbalises to self: name is ED, citizen ED in Connerian accent. Doesn't quite have the right ring to it* *starts on fourth Martini, chases down with Moet. TFI Friday* *hold on a minute - is it really only WEDS!*

This is a great idea - I will bring something i've recently read. So that will be "Spot's Day Out", "The Gruffolo" or "We are Going on a Bear Hunt". On second thoughts I'll bring something I read in a previous life. citizen

thousands of Liverpool fans prepared to take time off work, spend thousands of pounds on travel and ticket (and for some of them the plane gets cancelled and they can't get there anyhow) and even then the game might be like that dross on Saturday. That is complete faith, completely illogical and cannot be figured by people who don't get football. Not unlike religion. Religion is psychological, not philosophical. citizen

*nods to Mockney - shake one for me too* *scans lounge for Pussy Galore*

Perhaps Annasfield should change name to Anfield. Good luck to Liverpool citizen

*straightens tux* *affixes cigarette into silver plated holder. drags luxuriantly* *notes seemy behaviour of folks on the water* *tuts diapprovingly*

I am sad. So will be my lil' boy. That slide was the best one - he'd just mastered getting up that huge step up to the slide bit. I was looking forward to him mastering the rigging bit. If these low-lifes have sawn it in half, is it in a dangerous state or have the council made it safe? citizen

*humming Witchita Lineman - senses spooky synchronicity in here today*

*wakes up with a eloquent yawn - why are fish so difficult to draw?* *note to self - aim lower*