I recognise where the guys are coming from - it's a sort of 'Platonic' dream Saturday Camden. I worked there for 7 years. During the week however it's a windblown sh*thole full of crackheads, needles and drive by shootings. Two people have been murdered outside our office there. I've been assaulted twice on the way to the tube, and it's unusual for a hoodie not to muscle you in a pathetic attempt to steal your wallet as you walk past. It's important not to fudge several issues together. Camden tube is clearly not up to its role, and is working so far over capacity it's dangerous. This needs redevelopment, and the Electric Ballroom is going to be the fall guy simply because you can't funnel 30,000 people a day through a 3m doorway. I do agree that the proposal is more Bluewater than Blue Funk though, and a more quirky approach to the building would be infintely more desirable. The stables market is a slightly different issue, half the units have been empty there for longer than I've worked there. If it worked already that wouldn't be the case - so that in itself demands development. But I do however think that the building thrown up near the railway line is a monstrosity. In both respects I think that campaigning to retain the status quo is redundant - our aim should be to find the balance which retains the areas charm.