Huguenot

Blinking heck, I still don't get it

We've been thru quite a few PF: the Magdala, EDT, The Drum, CPT, Clockhouse; the Black Cherroir and Inside 72 were a bit small/busy to accommodate, the Bishop was a bit crowded and the Palmerston & Franklins probably a bit too foodie for us roustabouts. It's quite fun checking out more back street pubs even if they're not strictly SE22. I should add that the ED electoral ward is different to SE22, and that strictly speaking we're in Camberwell Friern (hence the purportedly 'wrong' sign that last for years at GG saying 'welcome to Camberwell'. With that bundle of unresovled technicalities we thus ensure fertile grounds for debate. This map shows some of the places we've all considered.* *Edited so it works now!

Puts new pic up on wall in heart throb corner... Isn't he just a cutie... ;-)

La la la 77.35..... Yep, check the time, took me all night!

Ha! 63.367m! .....

Absolutely CWALD agreed - there are many ways of bullying that aren't physical. I appreciate that's not your intent. The unfortunate truth is that a dog sounding like a killer and looking like a killer but 'under my control' is effectively saying 'your health is under my control' and that's top notch psycho bully. That's exactly what dogs are like to those that are scared of them. It doesn't matter whether they're little scurriers or big menaces, they're terrifying. Saying 'get over it' is also bullying. That's not because I'm a bleeding heart liberal middle class. For the record, I don't mind dogs, I merely observe that their contribution is seriously in the red.

What I dislike, and I'm sure my posts over the months would attest to this, is bullying. Owning a dog which looks like a killer dog, and naming it after a union leader that has a similar name to a mass murderer smacks of getting off on a technicality. Staff or not, murderer or not, owning a dog like this is the same thing as bragging about slapping posh kids. I find it unacceptable. I suspect that those that wiggle their way through the testimony know it too, and every moment we empathise we fuel a peculiar egotism. None of us should accept this.

;-) I'd like him if you called him flopsie, because it would give me an insight into the underlying motivation when you trained him.

Ok - that one got deleted, but CWALD, you could have chosen Percival, Arthur's most loyal knight, with a similar sound form. But you didn't. You chose Hannibal, with all the fear that goes with it. Because everyone know the reference to the elephants?

Oh, and CWALD, I don't think you're telling the truth, and I think we both know it.

Well I'm guessing that no dog owner is referring to the Huguenot methode because you secretly know it's right. So to take one further step, what is it about dog owners that makes them believe that enslaving a wild animal (with limited grasp of what's going on around it) is alright? Don't ducks go 'woooo mammy' to the first thing they see? Isn't the 'sit' command just a wierd pack/tribal thing? Isn't the 'man's best friend' thing just a reflection of an incapacity to deal with the unpredictability of the real thing? Controlling something that's weaker than you doesn't make anyone a better person. C'mon kids - terminate the dogs (quickly and painlessly) and have real friends. ;-)

I like white stuff

Hmmm yeah, went on wedding weekend last weds, came back on monday to plant carnage. Nothing left alive but the snails. No nice way to say it. Now had to employ specific neighbour watering machine. So much for 'ignore thy neighbours'. Now we have to talk to them. ;-)

Very good... *wipes tear from eye whilst still chuckling*

That's exactly what's making your brain hurt you know...

Naked??? Ooooh

I reckon change more of the W. End of GG to a trendy loose-cobbled area with a band-stand, beer tents and seating marquees opening 11am - 8pm every weekend. Openair cinema on summer evenings.

Come on chaps - surely the Huguenot methode works? No legislation on dog ownership or leashes, simply charge the owners for any crimes of the dogs. All these law abiding dogs out there can run free and poo in toilets, there's no wierdy DNA tests to prove whether it's a specific breed or not. No problems for James or Ednerd, or even those that buy killer dogs for status so long as the dogs behave. However if your dog harasses or attacks someone, you go to jail. It's totally up to you whether you use a leash or not to prevent this happening. You know why you don't support this...? It's because you know your dog isn't trustworthy, and as such your 'innocent dogs' argument holds no water. Put your legislation where your canine convictions are and your dogs may run free as the wind.

A2 - DongErHuan Beijing (East 2nd Ring Road)

This is quite interesting: I'd never thought that there were such significant savings to be made if you either restricted yourself to one form of transport, or for one fixed journey seasonal. Who's got a dull half hour to populate the table then???? ;-) No, NOT me!

Welcome David! Great to see you on board! The speedy option would be the train from ED to London Bridge (11 mins), go to platform 6 for a train to Waterloo East every 2 mins at rush hour (5 mins).

Hi, many thanks all who tendered their bestest wishes, we had a brilliant weekend! Caught this candid snap of mockers dreaming of big things to come.... http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1294/542269865_8d70dfdea5.jpg?v=0 It poured down from Wednesday to Friday, so we were both resigned to the whole day being a bit of a washout, but Saturday dawned with glorious sunshine which stayed with us all weekend. Hurrah! It was not without event, the breakdown of electricity and water provision at the critical time of 12pm resulted in Bumbalina and mockney's other half breaking into a hotel down the road and taking baths, before tidying up and fleeing away into the afternoon. The rest of us resorted to the swimming pool. Order was fortunately restored at 2.30pm, giving the chancer boys an opportunity to clean themselves up (by which time a few proseccos had been shared to dull the nerves). Bumbalina crossed the bridge at 4pm, bringing more than the odd tear to my eye, she looked quite honestly like a dream. The ceremony itself caused much hilarity through the presiding official's inability to pronounce bumba's real name. She will henceforth be known as Roger. Many speeches and entertainment ensued, and we had a live jazz band to fill the gaps. Food was exquisite, including 25 different antipastos, three courses and dessert. Highlights included scrambled eggs (yes really!) and gnocchi with truffle. As all weddings should be, the wedding was completed delightfully by a police VAT raid on Monday morning. Bloody marvellous. Some candid snaps can be found at this flickr location. We're still waiting for the professional ones, and we'll append as soon as we get them! For some reason I can't sort the photos, so the wedding snaps themselves are on pages 2 & 3. Mockers, please do pool as soon as you get yours online? Once more many thanks for your best wishes, and I hope you all enjoy the photos!

That's not right Mockers, the father of Ellie Lawrenson got eight weeks for owning an illegal dog. It had already savaged a neighbour and he had merely received a reprimand for failing to control it properly. I say he should have received life. The deal isn't balanced according to the logic of the dog owner. If they're 'under control' then the owner should be punished accordingly. If they're not 'under control' then put it on a leash. Leashing dogs was the issue of the original poster?

Well my wedding this weekend was almost ruined by a highly trained dog controlled by a highly trained police officer when it decided to try and take a chunk out of my four year old niece's arm. Great hospital trip that. I struggle to accept that someone's indulgence in a cuddly wuddly woodly doodly carnivorous killing machine 'because it's trained' outweighs the rights of people to walk the streets unmenaced by their presence. However, because I'm reasonable I have a compromise: put it on a leash. If that is unacceptable, then I present the following Socratic argument: For those who own dogs that commit crimes, their punishment should be identical to that which they'd receive if they committed the crimes themselves, including life imprisonment without parole for those that attack children and adults, and eight years for GBH for those that simply bite an stranger in an unprovoked assault. If dog owners aren't prepared to accept that deal themselves, then they effectively accept that they can't control the dog. QED

Nothing boring about that JA - we renovated our otherwise completely run down house about 4 years ago, and all the above faults were found to exist. Electrical engineers in ED with any knowledge of local history will always make the above checks whenever they're working at any house. Incidentally, we changed our incoming gas supply from metal to gas for safety reasons. Most in ED ars still metal. The only easy way is to call out an engineer I'm afraid, although they don't have to be EDF.