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Ha ha yes Rockets. I suppose when asked for ?Boris bikes? Southwark said ?no?, the number and quality of proper cycle lanes in ED and Dulwich are poor, pavements in poorer areas are badly maintained and when local buses had services reduced by the mayor (40] there was no big campaign by the council to keep. The council also stopped free collection of garden waste and household goods.

In my tutorial today I was discussing with my students, how to convince an asthmatic to comply with their drug regime and to stop smoking. It was all ?stick? ?stick? ?stick? ... you do need to throw in some ?carrots?.

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Apparently Bill Oddie tried to find elephants dung...but yes I have heard of Lion poo too...

World Health Organisation - 2013 'a meta-analysis of cohort studies found an association between asthma incidence and within-community variations in air pollution (largely traffic dominated). Similarly, a systematic review suggested an association between asthma prevalence and exposure to traffic, although only in those living very close to heavily trafficked roads'

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Hi Nigello, so to be very boring.... the pathophysiological triggers of a lethal asthmatic attack in a child can be a spike in particulates from idling traffic. Hence the upholding of the cause of death of Ella Roberta. The idling traffic on Croxted during the school run is probably spiking illegal levels as is EDG on some days. One death of a child is too many. I?m not against LTNs, but the choices of rds seem to be about white, upper middle class loud voices rather than the real victims of car pollution.

Yum 😋 delicious... I don?t mind the price as it?s Dishoom quality...maybe better, loved the Dal Makhani and the Tarka Dal, I make both at home, but sooooooooo good to have someone else cook for me. Great spicing. 😋😋😋🌶

Still have to pay their mortgage and eat....actually I have worked in private practice and NHS, pay wasn?t too much different, in general less interesting cases and far more worried, rich well. If anything was very complex they were treated in an NHS unit as private units are not equipped for the expense of intensive care for long term cases such as Covid for example.

There are no kids playing on those roads (or car parks).. lots of kid on Croxted and EDG on school days.

I see more children walking on LL, Croxted and EDG... Calton, Melbourne, Elsie and all those LTNs are just car parks for the rich.

I?m very much looking forward to the next election campaign.... I think they will avoid knocking on any doors in EDG, Croxted or LL. I have always voted Labour or Green, this time I?ll vote for anyone who thinks consultation should concentrate on those residents who may be negatively affected by any proposed actions and who act in a way that does not create inequalities and rifts between neighbourhoods.

I thought that during nesting time for birds that trees and shrubs could not be removed? Am I incorrect?

I think he is frustrated, he didn?t say he was angry. I think there is a lot of frustration that positive actions such as bike lanes, timed school road closures, car charging points, investment in a local public transport policy and action on school drop down and pick up are not being utilised by Southwark. Instead school roads with the majority of poorer housing, pedestrians, cyclists, less car ownership, bus routes, etc, now have more polluting idling traffic, terrible roads and poorly maintained pavements. I have lived on EDG for 30 years and the paving has never been upgraded, the road partially resurface once. When I walk....yes walk..or cycle I really notice LTN roads have lovely pavement, better road surfaces than EDG, Croxted and LL. Southwark just do not care about residents on the ?boundary? roads.

Honestly, just open the LTNs on days where there ate roadworks or temp traffic signals..they are actually roads! Southwark get you act together.

When everything was open most Charter school kids appeared to get buses and trains and walk..from the stop, the entrance is on Melbourne (which is now an LTN), I used to walk past there quite often when not working from home. If I walked the other way to go to work via Herne Hill station rather than ED there were coaches and many, many cars dropping off at Alleyn?s and JAGs. The LTNs are indeed badly planned in Southwark, especially around EDG which is as you say is a school street and has a health centre. Unfortunately I think Southwark has dug in it?s heels and the LTNs will not be removed despite the obvious impact of more pollution on residential school roads.

It?s definitely ?school? drop off that causes the extensive periods of idling traffic on EDG, I?m working from home at present, so did a little look out the window check...so many cars actually stopping in the traffic jam to let their one child out of the car to walk 2 mins to Alleyn?s and JAGs. Also lots of buggy bikes and bikes on the pavement. Southwark need to consider some of the options you allude to Nigello. A bike lane/widened pavement on the LL to Half Moon cross roads would be in the main direction of the vehicle queue and maybe lights at the EDG/LL junction and a pedestrian crossing there, could be timed to discourage cars down EDG from 7:30 to 9:00 and pick up time but allow buses, school coaches, bikes etc to go down on a green filter? Croxted may have other causes than LTNs and the school run.

Nope, not aimed at you, was chatting to the originator of this soon to be lounged (I imagine) thread.....it was fun for a while, but not anymore.

Daaaaaaarling, people don't dog in the villaaage..they swing!

I think mixed housing, so social housing, maybe for some of our older generation and young families. A youth centre and a green space/playground. If this space was opened as a truly social space for those who really need help, rather than a playground for the richest, whitest most privileged population in Southwark... I think I would almost feel that I could deal with the extra traffic on my road.

Hi James, This is incorrect ?that roads are designed with specific functions in mind. Main roads are built to sustain higher volumes of traffic, higher speeds, and larger vehicles. This isn't my personal view, but the universally accepted one? East Dulwich Grove was specifically built as a residential area as was many of the older ?main? roads in London. In fact a new house in the 1880?S on EDG was won by a private in the army, in a Tib-bits competition as a dream family home. Was not ?designed? for higher speeds and larger vehicles?. Also ?universally accepted? by whom? Cycling campaigners? Southwark are making a choice to designate areas as gated communities and the rest of us. 10% of Londoners live on so called ?main roads? 4% in LTNs. Labour councils have really got this very wrong and have compromised the health of those least likely to be part of very white, very middle class and well organised pressure groups. Start listening to black and minority voices and those living on ?main? roads.

Dulwich Square, skate board park and youth centre, with social housing where the Audi garage used to be? The borough needs a good youth centre.

What a complete mess. I think my main concern is the amateurish way Southwark approached the whole scheme, without any high level thinking, consultation or planning it seems. No equality assessment, no consultation, no thought of residential main roads. Now I think they know that it is having very negative effects as the data emerges and complaints from residents pile up, but they don?t know how to undo the damage without having the wrath of the residents on gated roads. The gated communities are obviously enjoying a peaceful road and a rise in their house price. I?m sure if I lived in an LTN I wouldn?t want it removed. The whole episode has put neighbour against neighbour, haves and have-nots, clean air for some, more pollution for others. I can?t think of a more divisive act at a local level to make some feel ignored and second rate citizens and others feel rewarded due to their postcode. I still cannot believe a Labour Council I stupidly voted for had carried out such an unequal and negatively impactful act.

Short exposure to PM10 and PM2.5 can trigger a lethal asthma attack in a child. Croxted was definitely over the legal limit of both today for the school run. Did Southwark measure this today?