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The thing is it?s not sleaze, it?s corruption and needs to be called what it is.

Southwark seem fairly cavalier at taking green spaces away from poorer estates, with flats and no gardens while giving extra space to those with large front and back gardens only yards away from parks. Brenchley, Deverell Street, Bells Garden Esate, Woodland Rd Esate...

We were told by Southwark Council in the plans, it was part of the agreement for the development, the garden would be moved to the health centre site.

My partner who used to work for a homeless charity commented on the benches on the square of shame and Elsie Rd (not Melbourne..my mistake). The design with an arm-rest bar off centre is there to stop any cold, poor homeless people from sleeping on them.. a bit like those spikes under bridges or outside of very posh shops. Homelessness isn't a crime...we are all only a few steps of bad luck away from being homeless and I find this obvious purchase of anti-homeless benches really sad.

Thanks James, none of my neighbours in East Dulwich Grove have received a newsletter or a consultation leaflet. Is it possible that this could be remedied in the next few weeks as very few are look at this forum. Many thanks.

I know Sue...and we were promised by Southwark it would stay....while Calton gets parklets while having acres in Dulwich Park, ED Grove gets its only public garden removed. It was lovely for the bees 🐝 as well.

Thanks Slarti, as someone on a boundary rd, I haven?t had a leaflet, my neighbours didn?t know about the consultation, so I imagine most of my street are unaware. If most in the Village don?t want the ?square of shame? and it?s just 50 or so residents in Calton (which on my last stroll has a high ownership of SUVs) that have forced this closure...is there something we don?t know about the Village Councillors?

I was really sad to see the community garden on ED Grove dug up...as we were promised it would be replaced....any news?

I?m heartened to hear that some of the Village is embarrassed and think that the changes are counterproductive, so thank you for that correction. I just haven?t personally witnessed this myself.

I think Alice is right, for Dulwich Village it was never about cyclists or clean air for all residents ... it was for very rich people to have access to all that a large city provides, cleaners, gardeners, Waitrose delivery, wine shops, sourdough, expensive restaurants, excellent private education, private areas for parking the second car - while living the life in an exclusive area, as close to a rural Village as possible...and they don?t give a flying fig for anyone who suffers from displaced traffic. Croxted Rd and Lordship Lane residents do not matter to the Villagers.

Oh they were putting them in Melbourne as well, I imagine I paid for those in my Council Tax, I really want pollution monitors on ED Grove but apparently the council can?t afford to measure NO2 and particulates on my rd, but benches...........

Love that idea Alice EDG - buses, bikes, taxis, blue badge and residents only. Court and Calton cars. Fixed! Melbourne, Elsie etc. LTNs could go, because EDG no longer a car route and as EDG is a school road the improvement in air quality, faster bus journeys and safer cycling will be great for the school children.

Could someone check if this is true? It just that I still haven?t received a leaflet about LTN consultation and there are still no air pollution monitors on ED Grove due to the ?cost?. ?tomorrow two ?parklets? will be erected in Dulwich Village, one outside Romeo & Jones and one in ?Dulwich Square? ?20k a pop? as seen on a Twitter account. I don?t know if it is a true statement.

Thank you James, you were very helpful sorting out teething problems with the payment site last year.

Southwark ?gifts? gated roads and Village squares for the rich, encourages cycling groups outside of Dulwich to join consultation while not informing residents on boundary rds....it takes green spaces away from people with no access to gardens in the less affluent areas. Infilling ..I.e. building on green spaces and play areas on estates. If you cannot see this is socially unjust, then you make a choice not to see.

Cycling groups outside of Dulwich re-tweeting the Southwark consultation on LTNs...including Councillor Leemings - meanwhile none of my neighbours on EDG have the leaflet to inform them about the consultation online. Obviously I have alerted my close neighbours but it is Southwarks duty to engage with residents on boundary rds.

Yep....Remember Lancet getting into hot water for publishing before peer review, because they were ?excited? by preliminary results. It?s an important process.

No leaflet..no consultation....still waiting.

yep..that's my policy.

Dear James, When will residents on East Dulwich Grove revive a leaflet about the LTN consultation?

As an EDG resident this is the first time I have seen this survey, thank you Serena. I?m actually shocked that this was not sent to residents in EDG. Hopefully I have maintained some semblance of politeness, with occasional moments of less well worded interactions, but this is disgraceful! How dare they make changes that effect us, our children, our neighbours by consulting these roads and not our road!

It is simplistic, but as with many discussions and policies inference is taken from the data available. This simplistic view is very much what LTN policy is built on, even on data that needs to be re-adjusted or has small samples and very wide confidence levels.

Very few BB in the Village LTNs ... as disability rights UK points out ?Nearly half of everyone in poverty is either a disabled person or lives with a disabled person? so unlikely to be living in a 1-3mill or more house with two cars on the drive...

Thank you legalalien, that will be great news for my disabled neighbour. I?ll try and get onto the site. :)