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Schools back... EDG back to being a polluted nightmare.. m any cyclists using the pavement too...

Absolutely Penguin...local consultation. It would be lovely to have some of LL pedestrianised... not sure how it would work, but shutting off Calton and Court is ridiculous...they were made as wide carriage roads, not private roads for the wealthy. Need a nice double decker and a few bus stops. It is not the countryside people, the countryside is where all their second homes are :)

Court lane and Calton Ave are very wide roads, could easily take a local small bus route.

The bus stop was allowed near the park, but it had to be a special one so as not to offend the sensibilities of the wealthy. About time that we had proper local transport plan and consider routes and cycle lanes in Dulwich, North, West and East. Have a Southwark wide consultation to consider pedestrianisation taking into account equality measures. Just DO IT PROPERLY!

?While on the subject of public transport in Dulwich, you may be interested to know that until the 1960s there was no bus service running through the centre of the village. The P4 route did not start until 1972. It was considered by the Estates Governors that buses would only spoil the idyllic peace of the rural setting. Even then, the Estates Governors only permitted single-deckers to operate on the route which runs from Brixton, via Dulwich and Honor Oak to Lewisham. The first few years of the service used a ?Hoppa? bus. Although the vehicles are now larger ? to hold more people ? the rule about single-decker buses through the village is still enforced over 40 years later!? from know your London. And .. yes, drive less, especially now my road is a boundary road and has all that additional traffic.

I have lived here so long that I remember that the majority wanted more public transport in Dulwich Village, so people without cars could get around. There was a big push from Villagers that they didn?t want buses down Calton/ Court etc as they all had cars and big buses would bring the tone of the Village down, so it was only the little P4 allowed. They also campaigned against bus stops for the same reason. Now they have their lovely gated communities too. Divisive, clean air for the wealthy and pollution for the less well off. Southwark Labour deserves to lose the control of this borough for abandoning the poorest to make gestures towards reducing pollution that do not work and actually make the lives of the least well off, who live on roads such as Croxted, EDG and LL less healthy.

LTNs..

Book with NHS website. Both appts will be given to you ... pharmacists and some hospitals.

Maybe Southwark could remove the current LTNs and make sections of the boundary roads LTNs and then see how attitudes change. Calton and Court are nice and wide and could easily take a bus, especially if not used as an overflow car park for the 2nd or 3rd household vehicle. Don?t worry the traffic will apparently disappear.......

Aaaaah but Malumbu I am an expert in cardio respiratory disease.... and I know about particulates too. Sadly Particulate Matter (PM) exposure has been linked to adverse health effects by numerous studies. Non-exhaust emissions already account for over 90% of PM10 and 85% of PM2.5 emissions from traffic and are related to vehicle weight and braking. Less cars, vans etc of all types are the answer, rather than heavier electric cars (battery makes them heavier). Also better public transport and protected bike lanes. Pollution and health should be monitored for any route changes that increase traffic on residential roads. LTNs in ED and Dulwich... don?t seem to address car use and ownership or increase of bike lanes. In fact LTNs are in areas of multiple vehicle owning households, with free on street parking...

If Southwark had monitored particulates and NO2 and had undertaken an equality impact assessment then it is highly unlikely that the current LTNs would have been put in the roads that are currently gated. I?m not arguing against any LTNs but Southwark?s are misplaced and probably cause more pollution across the borough than less. Of course nothing can be proven as nothing has been measured. In science this type of bias is why studies are blinded in order to be measured to reduce unintended bias. So... if you live in an LTN, of course you can?t help being biased ....which is why councillors should say if they live in an LTN.

Is there an FOI about which councillors live in an LTN as there are financial implications of increased house prices? Also is a reduced house price on a boundary road due to LTNs without any consultation a case for suing the Council?

Cycle lane.. not along all of it, but probably from the bend up to the crossing, so from where the Dutch estate starts up to the Half Moon crossing, take off street parking away from the left hand side as not used so much after the parking zone, there is unused parking on the rail track side of the Dutch estate that could be opened up to local residents- but yes EDG is very busy with traffic due to the 4 LTNs so opening those roads would be better for cyclists generally. Unfortunately the LCC will not agree......

Cycle lane EDG .... yes please. So many cyclists on this road, please make it safer for them. The crossing will be great, that junction is so dangerous for us pedestrians.

Living ?near? an LTN.....an exercise in how to skew data. So if on a boundary road, with high inequality then classed as ?benefiting? from an LTN despite an increase in traffic and pollution. The LCC up to it's truth-twisting yet again.

Exactly devs... I?m a pedestrian living on EDG, I hardly ever drive ( a couple of times a year) and cycle on occasion, but I walk everywhere. LTNs have made pollution much, much worse for me. I dread the schools opening in March as EDG will again be awful for 3 hrs in the morning and 3 in the afternoon.... school run is horrific!

Maybe if you prove you have two cars and a child at a private school you can get a passport?

I think on Calton Ave in an LTN car ownership is about 2 cars per household... a town run-around and a family car to take them to their 2nd home. I have one home on EDG and have driven twice in 2020 and not at all on 2021. I don?t want to breath the extra pollution due to 5 LTNs around EDG. Yet............... of course I?m the gas guzzling UKIP loving anti-green liar according to LCC campaigners on Twitter.Such is life for us older invisible residents that Southwark don?t give two ****s about.

I?m glad the poor, deprived, ethnically diverse population are having this money spent on them...meanwhile Southwark Council trying to remove the small amount of green space for these very rich, mainly white, executives and highly paid professionals in Priory Court with Infill" ... a euphemism for the taking of estate play areas, gardens, tenants halls and other estate property. These places are intrinsic parts of estates. They were never meant to be built on. Petition change.org/priorycourt

Simon is a pro-LTN activist, his tweets are insulting and problematic in the way Alice describes. He is employed by a lobby group that informs and engages with Southwark. I would describe this person as a truth-twister. Yet again the voices of people living in the reality of polluted ?main? residential roads such as Rosamund Kissi-Debra are drowned by mainly white-Lycra-clad men. I am a pedestrian. I demand clean air for all.

People don?t live, go to school, go to nurseries, walk to health centres on a Motorway James. They do all of these on a residential road like EDG. So my road and residents on this road are more ?suitable? for additional pollution? But residents on Calton Ave are not. No wonder Rosamund Kissi-Debra, calls LTNs out as an inequality in clean air for residents based on wealth and ethnicity.

Brickhouse bakery Peckham Rye loaf .... sadly missed. Gail?s is owned by Mr. Brexit... the bread isn?t as good as Brickhouse, but they do make tasty treats. I will be tempted....

So nice to be called a ?hypocrite? really delightful language. Actually no, just someone worried about excess pollution on my road. What a very rude and aggressive comment. Please remove.

This does some up how clean air campaigners who believe LTNs add to pollution on high density residential roads feel https://www.onlondon.co.uk/paul-wheeler-why-londons-road-wars-are-tearing-labour-apart/ Maybe instead of insulting Ella?s Mum and LittleNinja, people should read the real experience of people living on these roads and educate themselves.

Well.. I have lived on EDG for 30 years and my eye, nose and lung monitors recorded a huge increase in idling traffic after the LTNs, during rush hour morning and evening, outside of lockdown. So, please can pollution levels be measured and monitored from March 2021 across a year in EDG. Can we have a proper assessment on inequality of health over the borough. Also please can the councillors engage with EDG residents and stop hiding inside LTNs where of course the residents are positive about their gated community. Nothing over the 30 years of being a resident has divided the community more than this inequality in clean air.