BrandNewGuy

And on Blackfriars Bridge, the northbound bus stop is now cut off from the road by the new barrier and is closed. Presumably permanently.

And we should be cautious about this youth effect until the numbers have actually been crunched. When David Lammy last night tweeted about a 72% turnout among 18-25 year olds, I wondered exactly how he could have got that information so quickly given that it didn't factor into the exit poll. Turned out it was a made-up figure. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40220032

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > On the subject of the right-wing press, this > result was a massive two fingers to them and the > belief that they sway/win elections, that they can > get away with systematic character assassinations. > With the influence of social media growing by the > day, that's not the case anymore, people can get > their news/opinions from a variety of sources. Yes > Corbyn has his faults, but nothing warranted the > bile that was spewed at him and others. A victory > for hope not hate... Much as I detest the gutter press, the social media liberal-left can't believe both 1. that these evil papers control the thoughts of brainless morons and 2. that these morons can somehow turn round and stick their fingers up at the billionaire press barons. FWIW I think the influence of the tabloids is very much exaggerated ? I never believed that it was The Sun wot won it in '92 and most readers of tabloids read them because they reflect their views not because they're looking for political guidance.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In a couple of hours time, Teresa May will go to > Buckingham Palace to seek permission > from The Queen to form a Government. Can The > Queen refuse her. Has that ever happened ? > > DulwichFox No and no. The only time there was a difficult decision to make was when Macmillan was ousted in 1963 in mid-term. The Queen (and her advisors) made it clear that she'd wait until a convincing leader emerged from the Tory infighting. Eventually Alec Douglas-Home told her that he could form a cabinet and gain the confidence of the Commons. If it had been left to the vote of Tory MPs from the moment Macmillan resigned, Rab Butler might well have won and become PM.

Foxy, given its sluggishness, it sounds like it's already been poisoned and is on its last legs.

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ladbrokes were offering 3/1 on Trump and 1/5 on > Clinton the day of the US election, and 3/1 on > Brexit with Remain odds-on, so they're not always > the best indicators. Indeed. Odds follow the money, not the chances of something happening. When punters piled money into a Clinton victory, the odds shortened. I remember the Tyson-Bruno fight in Vegas back in the pre-internet days. Bruno's odds in the UK were ridiculously short, while all the Bruno fans going to Vegas for the fight waited till they got there to put their money on him at ? justifiably ? much longer odds.

Abe_froeman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How they expect to negotiate a new deal with > someone else while allowing zipcar to park for > free anywhere they like is beyond me. They're not 'allowing' Zipcar to park for free. Without designated bays, Zipcars can park wherever they like in streets without restrictions. I'm all for car clubs and fully intend to get rid of my car at some point soon, but there are three hurdles to overcome: getting a critical mass of local users which will, in fact, free up spaces for car club cars; trying to ensure that the car club 'market' is sufficiently competitive to keep prices down; and stopping the bloomin' council from using car clubs as yet another revenue generator, even though they seem to actually want fewer cars in the borough.

Yep. "F**k you! I'm Millwall!" is on a par with "You ain't no Muslim, bruv". And I don't mean that flippantly.

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I meant Regan and Carter (they used to have loads > of 'contacts' in the underworld). And they met one of their snitches at DHFC's old Champion Hill ground...

One of Jonathan Meades's TV films features lots of shots of Dawson's Heights from 1997 ? see the start of Pt. 3 here:

Well, the council are looking at doing further ecological survey work on Green Dale ? there are certainly lots of stag beetle larvae among the poplar stumps and old wood on Green Dale in the patch just the other side of the fence from the Abbotswood Rd / Green Dale path. Ditto the probable bat roosts in the trees along the side of Green Dale backing onto the current stadium.

They're fine - pretty much standing room only but not uncomfortably so and if you head for the rear carriages you can find a seat or two.

Yeah, they've been out and about for the last week or so around here. It's quite unnerving when one flies near you ? they fly like those hulking great military transporter planes. Nationally they're rare, so we should take care of our local population ? rotting wood and stumps are great for the larvae to feed on.

The best time to look will be late June and into July after the youngsters leave the nest.

It's better because otherwise it allows the parties to get away it. The IFS looked at the overall figures, not piecemeal for each particular pledge, as the latter can always be 'funded' if you ignore all the other pledges. And I reckon the Beeb has been as hard as it can be on the Tories on the matter of spending plans, even though the Tories craftily decided to put very few figures next to their pledges.

Well, there are issues with costings. The IFS are about as unimpeachable as you can get and they've slagged off both Tory and Labour tax and spend figures: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/may/26/conservative-labour-tax-spending-plans-ifs-general-election-manifesto

Much as I detest TM, it's a shame people don't know the phrase "naked into the conference chamber" from Nye Bevan's anti-unilateralist speech in 1957. It's been used many times since in the context of tying a negotiator's hands ? but also it's clearly a dig at JC's unilateralism. A tough but not unfair blow in the context of an election campaign?

edhistory Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Do they roost near Railway Rise? Possibly. There was some talk of bat roosts when the garden centre planning app was being considered, but I don't think any evidence of such was presented.

Nigello Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Where was the bat? I have yet to see one anywhere > in and around SE22/15/21 but would love to. During a 'bat walk' around Dog Kennel Hill Wood and Green Dale last autumn, three different bats were seen and/or detected ? pipistrelle, soprano pipistrelle and noctule. There are plenty of bats around in ED but they tend to stick to travelling familiar tree lines and wooded areas to feed ? they're not keen on flying across open spaces and they tend to avoid brightly lit places, even though those places attract numerous moths etc. You can also see them around the wooded parts of Peckham Rye Park and all along our local railway embankments.

Jenny1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That's very interesting BrandNewGuy. Do you see > many peregrine falcons in the area? I see about one or two a month. With at least 40 pairs breeding in Greater London, there are increasing numbers of young peregrines which tend to wander and will eventually find territories. I've regularly seen recently fledged birds practising their flying skills from the Salvation Army college tower on Denmark Hill and from the top of the old church spire on the South Circular by Cox's Walk.

Just seen a peregrine falcon flying over ED station heading Peckham-wards. Watch out,lazy pigeons :-)

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Your nearest decent department store is a solid > mile and a quarter away. > > Louisa. I can just imgaine L striding through Grace Brothers, with Mr L in tow carrying a mountain of boxes... ;-)

robbin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > huh?! I suppose that's one thing to be focussing > your anxiety on. huh?! That perfectly reasonable set of observations about social media were probably not either tj's only focus or a source of anxiety. It can indeed be extraordinarily heartless and potentially dangerous to relay rumours, which in these cases alas always include false ones.

titch juicy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Also, and i've mentioned before, they filled old > HP and Heinz Ketchup bottles with dirt cheap > sauces. Only the greasiest of greasy spoons can > get away with that old trick. Cheap and nasty > tactics. That's worse than calling yourself 'A Fabulous Little Place'.

They don't have the power, but they can have the vision. Especially if whatever the future holds includes supporter involvement in the ownership and management of the club, which it should.