I find it slightly patronising hearing all the 'original' guys yearning for the golden years of the forum. I'm not sure that constant moaning about the current state of the forum will help to improve it. So, all ye backslappers of a bygone era, why not start the EDF VIP room? that way you don't have to suffer the cheap, witless inane, nonsense spouted by the likes of me. I for one, really enjoy the forum... sometimes there are engaging debates, sometimes there is utter tripe... most of the time I think it is very entertaining.