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I need education Gypo is short for Gypsy Pikey from the word turnpike is apparently the insulting name Frog is short for French viewed as an insult by some Has every alternative name for a group country or race now considered as an insult? What's going on?

adonirum Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Why does this sort of hijacking/deviation of a > thread seem to happen so much on this forum? If there was a like or dislike function for each post then maybe there wouldn't be so many responses to some posts. Many would be satisfied to just like or dislike rather than make a comment. Admin don't suppose there's any chance of adding that functionality ? Also it appears on any thread where "foreigners" migrant British are involved by the second page racism becomes the topic bonkers.

The 20mph limit on a road like this is difficult to enforce as A long straight road the impression of speed is reduced doing 20 feels like 10 and doing 30 feels like 20. 30 is what Barry road should be with the need to slow to 15-20 for crossings. I agree with kford remove the crossings with lights and install table top zebra crossings ALSO This is a road that would be perfect for average speed cameras that's the only thing that will result in reducing speeding by lunatics. In my experience over the last 20 years the speeding has reduced considerably on many of the local main roads including Barry rd. Questions How much slower do speeds need to go if at all or should they go up on roads like this? Is it just a few speeders the same ones who speed on every road how to stop them? What are the accident figures? What other speed reducing options are there? Buses speed everywhere why are they not electronically restricted to set speed limits many are driven my maniacs?

I've lived in East Dulwich for over 40 years for me the noise levels increased around 10 or so years ago when the landing path / stack changed and aircraft all joined at blackheath where before then they joined above Vauxhall. On some days and in certain conditions they revert back to the Vauxhall joining point but most days we are blighted with noise along with Brockley and everyone else in a line from Blackheath to Heathrow. Heathrow say nothing has changed but I believe it has there's no historic radar data that is publicly available from my searches. Flightradar24.com is good to show what's going on above us. Heathrow is in the wrong place and I agree with others it's madness to build any increase in capacity there.

TheArtfulDogger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wow I can see now how special you are now > 🤔 Thanks Yes we're all special in our own way some have their downside at 4.30am .

There may be an explanation. With hearing women when compared to men have been shown to have heightened hearing sensitivity some men have evolved to hear more than other similar to women in hearing ability and having a better sense of spatial awareness geometry ballistics an ability to concentrate their attention on the task at hand to the exclusion of distractions, evolved to survive over many thousands of years ,,, it?s an important factor if say they pickup on an annoying sound it dominates the attention or say a nasty smell it could make them feel sick whilst for others it?s not a problem. Maybe if you?re descended from a gene pool that required high levels of hearing like hunters or warriors having evolved for survival, that would explain why individuals hear different sounds at different levels, why to some the pitch resonance and level of sound differs in intensity and levels of annoyance, why for some it?s not a problem but to others it?s a living hell. If you are descended from farmers or fishermen you have less need for those particularly heightened senses you?ll be good at digging, have a strong back but not require the best hearing eye sight but have a great sense of smell. Who knows we are all different I accept some just don?t hear so they are not affected, whilst others are driven mad as I am. It?s impossible to have sympathy for those who don?t have a problem there?s no logic in that, so if someone has a problem and you don?t sympathise that?s fine but there?s no need to tell them you don?t have a problem unless you?re looking for sympathy which you wouldn?t be that makes no sense ??unless you had a strange logic,,, so you can only be presumed to be looking for something else?

Bobbsy Thank you for your support.

We're back on the flight path this morning 5.11 am wake up

I*rate I just read back on fazer71 Can't believe the abuse

I've been looking at flightradar24.com And today East Dulwich is not being bombarded with aircraft noise we get occasional flights over. It's because the flights look to be mostly joining the landing path over nine elms. They fan in from multiple directions. I've looked before and there have been days when we get every one of the planes over us. It's only a couple of miles north of us but wow what a difference..

Mad decision! The only times that would be acceptable ban flights between 11pm and 8am. If builders can't start making noise until 8am why should aircraft be any different?

Cordelia The proposal doesn't change much in flight timing we'll just be getting more early morning and late night flights NOT fewer!

Ah that explains it then he's lower and further away from the flight path. Probably deaf from the camberwell traffic too.

Are you really living in East Dulwich? Had your hearing checked recently? You don't work for the Heathrow media machine?

Edcam Have you not noticed the difference this morning? No noise I think you are making assumptions ..

Oh and aircraft noise is only a problem in London no other major European city has aircraft flying over millions of people every few minutes from 4am until past midnight.

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > pop9770 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > As I expected one rule for you and another for > > others. > I don't > expect anyone to pander to my preferences. Yes you do you expect others to accept poor air quality noise pollution because you are happy to live with those life damaging conditions. I'm saying it is not acceptable for others. If you were affected then you wouldn't put up with it, but you expect others to put up with it even if it blights their lives. Double standards.. Clearly..

As I expected one rule for you and another for others. Very sad selfish society still all the rage ..

That's good But what about the noise? Would be nice if he proposed ending all flights before 8am and after 11pm But they'll never do that or will they once there's a third runway ... It Should be possible Just shows how Heathrow airport is in the wrong place 100% wrong

edcam Yes not everyone has the same hearing and ability to sustain annoyances so obviously not everyone is affected by aircraft noise to the same degree. Thanks for stating the obvious. I would say though on balance many more are affected and as a consequence suffer a poorer quality of life as a consequence. Maybe the question those who do not suffer should ask themselves is do they feel it is acceptable to support inflicting pain on others less fortunate than themselves or are they happy to look themselves in the mirror and live with double standards?

Talking about aircraft noise in Southwark and not historical off topic ??? From Southwark News Khan is very quiet Heathrow Airport is truly a monstrosity of commercial infrastructure ever devised for London the ?Greatest Capital City In The World?? London?s Labour MPs (and others no doubt) are to be given a free vote on Heathrow expansion. A free vote means MPs can ignore their constituents wishes and vote for what suits them personally or politically and where kowtowing to the corporate lobby is almost certainly a factor in MPs voting on Heathrow. Let?s be reminded that a bigger Heathrow will mean more noise day and night, more pollution, more vehicle congestion all around and leading into and out of Heathrow. In short Heathrow expansion will be more of a nightmare than it is at present. And, let?s not suppose that expansion just effects the immediate environs of Heathrow Airport. Anyone who lives under flight paths that blight whole swathes of London knows what a horrendous effect is incurred to the quality of our lives with endless aeroplane noise. Shamefully Labour supports Heathrow expansion ? so did Sadiq Khan when a Labour MP before becoming London Mayor. But, Khan turned-turtle when campaigning for that prestigious municipal office he now smugly occupies. He wasn?t stupid to realise Heathrow was a very contentious issue his main mayoral rival Zak Goldsmith had already been extremely, and rightly, hot on for years. Khan could ill afford to loose anti-Heathrow mayoral votes ? so he cynically bit his ?faithful lip? and went for a London lie. But, now how quiet is our London Mayor on Heathrow expansion as it (Heathrow) is about to be voted on in parliament, and which he?s professed a half-hearted ?no? to expansion ? unlike his predecessor Boris who lambasted horrendous Heathrow for a more user-friendly alternative built away from populations? Now, when it matters, not a whisper from London Mayor Sadiq Khan about ?the greatest city in the world? soon to be overflown and polluted with even more noise and other environmental blight even more often, and often, and often? Brace ourselves for the nightmare of noise and fuel polluting aeroplanes over our capital while the London Mayor and our MPs (bar a few) raise barely a whisper against Heathrow?s expansion about to roar ever more often over our London rooftops. Bobbie Carnegie, Peckham

D fox What has that got to do with Heathrow plane noise over east Dulwich Really very peculiar comparison Do you work for Heathrow airport these days?

thread on aircraft noise on streetlife .com With more info and views

Yes mine cost ?35,000 for everything plumbing electrics plastering decorating kitchen planning architect everything. ?2,500 per sq inclusive.

It should be about ?2,500 a sq metre So your 4.5 x 7 = ?80,000 for everything except the kitchen and anything else exotic like expensive doors and underfloor heating or a glass roof. But a standard extension is within that price per sq metre including architects fees and planning fees and everything standard. My builders worked on that basis.