Mick Mac

Of course that was tongue in cheek. I think people who drink more are generally first to go to the bar and people who drink less are more concerned about buying a big round and not getting their money/drink back.

I'd have replaced Houlier with Martin O Neill, Anna. He wanted the job. I did not know who Rafa was and I expect it would have been better if LFC had never known who Rafa was. He's a nice man I accept, but you have to make people accountable eventually.

Is it ok to say the English ones are normally the tightarses - or is that racist.

skidmarks Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Does anyone else use little tests of character? > There are two types of people, the ones who turn > up late to a pub, goes to the group they?re > meeting and ask if anyone wants a drink. Then > there is the other type who arrive, spot where the > group is, go buy themselves a drink and go over. > That really gets on my tits. What they?re saying > is that they?re not buying you a drink until > someone has bought them one. > > What do you do? I buy drinks for everyone - and 3 for myself.

That's the sort of thing Matt you would say with a manager bedding in after 5/6 months not after 5/6 years. Surely Rafa should have satisfied you with a proper style of play before now.

matthew123 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Apart from cut & paste I am actually speechless on > that one.. ::o > > Anyway Mick, as far as 6-0-6 is concerned tell me > a time they don't load it with fans moaning about > their club. Not moaning about the club matt. Moaning about the manager and his unpredictable selections and formations. I dont think rafa will start next season.

just a man standing in front of 2 other men..... You can just feel them about to make up.

if you listened to 606 tonight it seems some reds fans are finally growing weary of rafa.

seems to be working. 1-2 at half time. Rafa on the edge.

ok. All the men of edf rush to type apologies.

oh dear. That is bad form. Perhaps she is pissed off with you not being there even though you were ill. Suggest you give her at least a severe talking to or just go the whole hog and write her off your friend list.

it may be a mis understanding. Id give her a chance to explain. Cant believe anyone would request money in those circumstances. Thats not being tight thats being purposefully dishonest. Im sure you would not associate with someone like that rosie? Probably a restaurant communication cock up.

Its the right thing to do and I'm sure its appreciated. Many people do worse and don't apologise.

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > Otherwise can you explain why they don't have a > > peace message? > > > That's the question I'm still asking. > I've given you my answer Brendan - in short: Armed forces are not taught to think like peaceful people, therefore it would be patronising and contradictory to bring peaceful wishes into the remembrance services. I have not seen that you have had any other answers from anyone else - except people agreeing with you that a peace message would be good. But noone else explaining the obvious absence of a peace message.

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > I think Brendan has a point that a somber > rememberance of the enourmous sacrifices of our > soldiers, whether citizen or professional over the > genrations, should not preclude a very necessary > reminder that the search for peace is the noblest > goal of all. Absolutley MP - but we don't think that the whole of the rest of the world has the same peaceful objective - hence we need strong armed forces. Armed forces are not taught to think like peaceful people, therefore it would be patronising and contradictory to bring peaceful wishes into the remembrance services. Otherwise can you explain why they don't have a peace message?

Well - ok, its the day to honour the armed forces and their families.

Thanks - I'll try to wangle a cinema visit.

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Let?s assume I?m not 5 years old and I know about > armies and stuff and why we have them. > > My point is that it seems at the moment that > mention of peace around Remembrance Day is somehow > out of place or political and is even sometimes > met with direct hostility. As if one is > dishonouring someone or something. To put it another way Brendan - The armed forces are not naive enough to believe that peace works in keeping the world a happier place for most of the worlds population. The armed forces are people primed for conflict - don't confuse their day with calls for peace when they have lost comrades in battle fighting for the greater good.

"Up" is rated PG - would a 7 year old enjoy it? Oterwise I am unlikely to get to see it. On the other hand if I go, I get brownie points and enjoy the film too.

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Why, when remembering the demise of people killed > in war, does the assumption that violence and > death are things that we as a society should do > our damdest to avoid have to go unsaid? Internally the UK strives for a peaceful society - externally we present ourselves as strong in order to prevent another country from taking an opportunity that results in the UK not being able to determine how to run its own society. A small group of people are asked to engage in death and violence on our behalf, being the armed forces. I'd prefer they were only used in defensive wars, but there you go.

Moral - don't get into drinking competitions with the 6ft 3in Irish goalkeepers.

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sometimes, true. Can't think of many though. > Defensive wars against mad oppressors are necessary. Hopefully WWII will prove to be the last time we have to defend ourselves to that level. Offensive wars, where the reasons for going to war are usually less clear may make it even harder for families to reconcile themselves with the loss of a family member where the war has no direct defensive purpose, but instead is political or economically strategic. The world is generally becoming more peaceful over time, which is a good thing, but the dominant countries will crush any attempt to destablise the status quo. Hence we will always have war, and rememberance. Calls for peace will make governments think carefully about how they justify a war (liberation/smoking gun) but it won't stop them doing it.

Neville Chamberlain called for peaceful resolution. Winston Churchill decided to fight them on the beaches. Sometimes war is the only way.

Keef Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Arsenal playing good Arsenal football, but you > must admit, there are questions over their staying > powwer over the season. > I'm hoping Arsenal will have more staying power this season - they could drop a gear and still win most matches. Even the Invincibles did not play the quality of football they play at the moment. I think Song is the best replacement to date for Vierra and he, Arshavin, Fabregas and Vaermalen will be a very strong spine for the whole season.

Yes, very good first episode. You can always trust the BBC to bring out a quility autumn/winter period type drama.